tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post3469913691192643100..comments2024-02-13T02:39:22.756-05:00Comments on EconomicPolicyJournal.com: David Stockman's Web Site Goes GatedRobert Wenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-54788238611283103782016-10-13T22:26:21.228-04:002016-10-13T22:26:21.228-04:00@Jesse, you ask what about person B? If it was a s...@Jesse, you ask what about person B? If it was a stolen car sold by A to B, and purchased innocently by B, B loses title. Whether it is a car wrongly sold, or IP, someone has to lose.Marmitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04850328196531520558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-82960865522160064632016-10-13T20:09:30.233-04:002016-10-13T20:09:30.233-04:00@Nick Badalamenti
> I think there is a problem...@Nick Badalamenti<br /><br />> I think there is a problem here in distinguishing between<br />> "copying" and coming up with the same idea "independently"<br /><br />Yes, there *is* a problem, but not of the kind you assume there is. It is virtually impossible to come up with a new idea without quite a few people already having the same thoughts. In fact, the running Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-50096885105559654752016-10-13T16:14:16.566-04:002016-10-13T16:14:16.566-04:00""Intellectual effort can not be free be...""Intellectual effort can not be free because that is labor"<br /><br />What are you a Marxist?"<br /><br />Labour is a specific kind of action and requires resources. Therefore, it has alternative costs. Because of that we conclude that it's valuable. You don't have to subscribe to labour theory of value to find that argument true. <br /><br />Second of all, he could Tom Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05501159905141901382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-91033838393705928622016-10-13T14:03:12.655-04:002016-10-13T14:03:12.655-04:00"Ultimately, for a private-property society t..."Ultimately, for a private-property society to exist, the society will need to be able to assert enough force to defend you, your community, and your property against those who would seek to take it"<br /><br />I agree with all of this, I'm not sure I fully understand your point.<br /><br />But to clarify, I view the concept of "secession" as libertarian. Along those linesNick Badalamentihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015961786370759940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-6198319650871419802016-10-13T13:44:04.334-04:002016-10-13T13:44:04.334-04:00Suppose one group gets together and decides that y...Suppose one group gets together and decides that your land is their property, or at least partially their property through their property definition?<br /><br />I have one socialist, old-college friend who insists ownership of physical property is aggression against him as no one has rights to deny him his fractional ownership of all the universe based on his existence (I'm putting words in Pandemichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315340208949970292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-17319680566147132912016-10-13T12:54:07.652-04:002016-10-13T12:54:07.652-04:00@ RW
Please see my response below, I fat fingered...@ RW<br /><br />Please see my response below, I fat fingered it's location.Nick Badalamentihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015961786370759940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-37369472171998401982016-10-13T12:24:15.061-04:002016-10-13T12:24:15.061-04:00"You could just as easily say: "I would ..."You could just as easily say: "I would never presume to tell others whether to institute minimum wage laws in their region."<br /><br />My point is this:<br /><br />If a bunch of moron's want to get together and say, "Yea, we're all for minimum wage laws" and they have 100% consent, well then that's libertarian even if we don't agree, right?(because Nick Badalamentihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015961786370759940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-60816840193758345252016-10-13T12:06:27.491-04:002016-10-13T12:06:27.491-04:00What the hell does this mean: "I would never ...What the hell does this mean: "I would never presume to tell others what they should or shouldn't consider 'property'"?<br /><br />You could just as easily say: "I would never presume to tell others whether to institute minimum wage laws in their region."<br /><br />The entire point of a Private Property Society is that private property is recognized because it Robert Wenzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-58400554060319393052016-10-13T10:27:18.801-04:002016-10-13T10:27:18.801-04:00@ Jesse
"I think, rather, he is having a har...@ Jesse<br /><br />"I think, rather, he is having a hard time conveying his point."<br /><br />In giving Torres the benefit of the doubt- he might be harkening back to Rothbard & Locke in their definition of what property "is"- they both reference a component of "labor mixing" to some degree in defining "property".<br /><br />To RW's point, just Nick Badalamentihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015961786370759940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-60792460493541634802016-10-13T07:08:04.648-04:002016-10-13T07:08:04.648-04:00Congratulations, you do not understand my model at...Congratulations, you do not understand my model at all. Robert Wenzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-50251649723243574962016-10-13T06:22:36.721-04:002016-10-13T06:22:36.721-04:00"According to a new IAB report, 26 percent of..."According to a new IAB report, 26 percent of desktop users and 15 percent of mobile consumers use blockers"<br /><br />Additionally, some percentage of those people would simply NOT go to your site if ad blockers were somehow disabled. If that is 50%, then the above numbers become 13% and 7.5%. Now consider that the additional overhead of more numbers to your site is extremely low, andAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16807090975131842483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-91233593375167554392016-10-13T01:29:05.855-04:002016-10-13T01:29:05.855-04:00David stockman is a mediocre writer in my opinion....David stockman is a mediocre writer in my opinion. I loose interest after 3 paragraphs. He is always selling depressing stories. I know that is popular with many folks, but I will take some positive waves. Phatheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05101643264100406083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-11573697487406733472016-10-12T23:09:21.243-04:002016-10-12T23:09:21.243-04:00The idea of intellectual property makes sense on a...The idea of intellectual property makes sense on a superficial level, like many statist policies. Lets say for instance, I create a video game and I sell a copy of it to person A under the condition that you will not create or distribute any copy of the game, that they are only allowed to enjoy the game for their own benefit. For the sake of argument lets say the game is only in digital form, Jessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10970586845001280417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-3367342403611818932016-10-12T23:01:52.765-04:002016-10-12T23:01:52.765-04:00@ averros & Unknown:
I think there is a probl...@ averros & Unknown:<br /><br />I think there is a problem here in distinguishing between "copying" and coming up with the same idea "independently", setting aside the issue of enforcement...which is a whole different ball of wax.<br /><br />I would assume that in a world of private courts that would be an issue for "discovery"....Nick Badalamentihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015961786370759940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-51711801234984431662016-10-12T22:20:09.901-04:002016-10-12T22:20:09.901-04:00Nick - this is what "IP" is. It is expli...Nick - this is what "IP" is. It is explicit in patents (i.e. a patent is awarded to whoever has priority), and implicit in copyrights (the copyright law presumes that two similar instances of some content share the common origin).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-26336474906587683772016-10-12T22:12:42.904-04:002016-10-12T22:12:42.904-04:00Exactly. "Intellectual Property" is bull...Exactly. "Intellectual Property" is bullshit, it's all about off-loading costs of exclusion onto others, and about using force of State to cartelize the content distribution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-74846742892819052802016-10-12T21:46:46.126-04:002016-10-12T21:46:46.126-04:00@Nick That's the thing. The anti-IP crowd int...@Nick That's the thing. The anti-IP crowd intentionally, and continually conflates ideas with the expression of ideas. Ideas cannot be patented or copyrighted.<br /><br />Personally, I think patents are problematic as there are probably a small handful of legitimately-patentable inventions in any given year, but the government Patent Office typically rubber-stamps patents and lets the Pandemichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315340208949970292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-12959379156795274562016-10-12T21:07:00.825-04:002016-10-12T21:07:00.825-04:00I think, rather, he is having a hard time conveyin...I think, rather, he is having a hard time conveying his point.Jessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10970586845001280417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-86687115356804251742016-10-12T21:00:21.742-04:002016-10-12T21:00:21.742-04:00"The pro-IP argument is that Idea X BELONGS t..."The pro-IP argument is that Idea X BELONGS to Individual Y even if Individual A comes up with the exact same Idea X independently."<br /><br />Who has made that argument in the "pro-IP" crowd? I've never read/seen it.Nick Badalamentihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015961786370759940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-76617898325817688102016-10-12T20:54:22.095-04:002016-10-12T20:54:22.095-04:00Agreed, Hollow Daze. Stockman is generally an inte...Agreed, Hollow Daze. Stockman is generally an interesting read but not irreplaceable. I will pay for the top 2-3 sources of unique insight (such as EPJ Daily Alert) but regret that Stockman is not among them. His style will be missed. Timothyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10985763976152286027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-44031745968708968472016-10-12T20:49:55.142-04:002016-10-12T20:49:55.142-04:00"Intellectual effort can not be free because ..."Intellectual effort can not be free because that is labor"<br /><br />What are you a Marxist? Robert Wenzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-70373145332502023102016-10-12T20:44:13.593-04:002016-10-12T20:44:13.593-04:00--- Despite what anti-IPers claim, there is no suc...--- Despite what anti-IPers claim, there is no such thing as free intellectual effort. ---<br /><br />Wbo argues that, again? Intellectual *effort* cannot be free because that is labor. Don't misconstrue the argument.<br /><br />The pro-IP argument is that Idea X BELONGS to Individual Y even if Individual A comes up with the exact same Idea X independently. Individual Y can still sue OldMexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111465436836633221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-24046861790656828732016-10-12T20:24:34.491-04:002016-10-12T20:24:34.491-04:00Stockman's not a daily read for me. I bought ...Stockman's not a daily read for me. I bought the Great Deformation and it was pretty good but, 4 years later, kinda forgettable. HIs Trump book? Forget it. Not sure what ol' Dave thinks he's got now but good for him. I'm sure the good stuff, the juicy stuff, will still be free via LRC and other sites. As for paid sites trying to be tipsters and touts, I'll pass on that Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-27841023851285600332016-10-12T19:57:05.136-04:002016-10-12T19:57:05.136-04:00I like your comment and agree Jesse. I subscribe t...I like your comment and agree Jesse. I subscribe to the Daily Alert and bought "The Fed Flunks" as well.Nick Badalamentihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015961786370759940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-24933019841118800002016-10-12T19:54:56.481-04:002016-10-12T19:54:56.481-04:00I really don't have any problem with pay for a...I really don't have any problem with pay for access sites or ad-blockers. <br /><br />Technology is such that if people don't want to offer their ideas ad-free they can cut out those not willing to pay and that's that.<br /><br />Personally, I think the reason people started run ad-blockers was in response to "annoying" ads(me included)- ads that automatically start up your Nick Badalamentihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015961786370759940noreply@blogger.com