tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post4799547896088431630..comments2024-02-13T02:39:22.756-05:00Comments on EconomicPolicyJournal.com: Why The Cold War Between Tech CEOs and Trump Is About To Go NuclearRobert Wenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-21768769504426648702017-02-01T20:24:18.204-05:002017-02-01T20:24:18.204-05:00Not sure if unowned's comment "Or is it f...Not sure if unowned's comment "Or is it foreign workers or nothing as your comment seems to imply?" was directed at me or not, but that is not what I was trying to imply. Job's should go to whoever a company wants to give the job to, period. If someone is willing and able to do a job at a lower rate than someone else, then why shouldn't they get the job? Getting upset about Michttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15733419377630651345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-91072662630584157452017-02-01T17:59:26.425-05:002017-02-01T17:59:26.425-05:00I mean, I feel like by listing reasons that employ...I mean, I feel like by listing reasons that employers might prefer immigrant labor you're only helping make my point.<br /><br />And I agree that H1B is not an kind of ideal libertarian program, but that's primarily because it's much too narrow.<br /><br />Total prohibition < Partial prohibition (e.g. H1B) < Actual freedomAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11968441656658845395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-35209270714467239172017-02-01T13:56:12.465-05:002017-02-01T13:56:12.465-05:00Maybe, but if they weren't inferior substitute...Maybe, but if they weren't inferior substitutes, then they'd already have these jobs. All that would happen is that the universe of possible employment relationships would shrink, ergo it would result in a less optimal situation.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11968441656658845395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-16096132420228540082017-01-31T20:12:10.030-05:002017-01-31T20:12:10.030-05:00But it will succeed in making these types of work ...But it will succeed in making these types of work arrangements less efficient.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11968441656658845395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-40723118048900433062017-01-31T17:38:43.291-05:002017-01-31T17:38:43.291-05:00Capn and Chad are spot on. I have a hi-tech friend...Capn and Chad are spot on. I have a hi-tech friend from India who came here on a H-1B. He has changed companies 4 times. Now manages a team for Siemens that has members (mostly engineers) all over the world. He's making much more than $100K. If Trump deports him, he'll work from Canada, UK, France or any number of other countries. G'mint can't stop immigration with a wall and it Michttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15733419377630651345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-539615676479453512017-01-31T02:43:27.016-05:002017-01-31T02:43:27.016-05:00Happens all the time with competition. Corporate s...Happens all the time with competition. Corporate structures have huge and nearly universal blind spots. They see salary cost not lost opportunity. <br />Jimmy Joe Meekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09559104650594440766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-72420896609916351212017-01-30T19:32:48.265-05:002017-01-30T19:32:48.265-05:00Jimmy Joe Meeker,
Your example assumes that compe...Jimmy Joe Meeker,<br /><br />Your example assumes that competition doesn't exist. Sure a firm CAN just pocket the difference, but competitors have access to these same resources and would undercut them on price.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11968441656658845395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-89310614654559340092017-01-30T19:29:55.696-05:002017-01-30T19:29:55.696-05:00I won't be ever spend any money for Disney:
h...I won't be ever spend any money for Disney:<br /><br />http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/12/14/disney-it-workers-file-lawsuit-claiming-company-replaced-them-with-h-1b-visa-workers/<br /><br />Or Fecesbook:<br /><br />http://www.vdare.com/posts/zuckerberg-lobbying-wins-facebook-massive-h1-b-loophole<br /><br />These corporations are using the system which is not particularly libertarian. <br The Lab Managerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17314871529571094106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-74832624148193351072017-01-30T19:07:12.730-05:002017-01-30T19:07:12.730-05:00Solid answer and I believe recent articles line up...Solid answer and I believe recent articles line up with this prediction.Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03839685763351180093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-71076910499019300242017-01-30T18:07:53.319-05:002017-01-30T18:07:53.319-05:00For what it's worth: If they shut down the H-1...For what it's worth: If they shut down the H-1B type programs completely, dummy foreign companies would be set up (they already are, of course) and the work would be contracted out to them. Net gain for American workers = less than zero.<br />There's no way out of the Global Village.<br /> Capn Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08133441332228302495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-87554820177355683902017-01-30T17:57:07.715-05:002017-01-30T17:57:07.715-05:00Lower consumer prices from lower wages? Engineerin...Lower consumer prices from lower wages? Engineering often doesn't work that way because engineers create things that save and make money for the company. You can hire an engineer for $100,000/yr and he'll make you $200,000 a year or you can hire an H1B Visa engineer and he'll get the work done and cost you $50,000/yr. The typical analysis says the H1B visa engineer is cheaper because Jimmy Joe Meekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09559104650594440766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-90818749104626600202017-01-30T17:43:54.806-05:002017-01-30T17:43:54.806-05:00Then the whining that american kids won't go i...Then the whining that american kids won't go into these fields.... there are other things more monetarily rewarding for smart american kids to do. Like go work for goldman sachs. No shortage of people wanting to work there. After all on wall street when you make companies millions or more you get rewarded for it. As an engineer you get to keep your job for a little longer... or maybe not. <brJimmy Joe Meekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09559104650594440766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-23796266814510617512017-01-30T17:39:22.337-05:002017-01-30T17:39:22.337-05:00I work for one of the big silicon valley tech comp...I work for one of the big silicon valley tech companies mentioned as a software engineer. There's two major uses of H1-B visas: outsourcing companies like Wipro and Infosys who hire lower-skilled technicians to do simple tasks for IT departments of large companies like P&G or McDonalds, and those hired by companies like Google/Amazon/etc to do software engineering. For the low-skilled ChadThrustingtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13983384954841763039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-16187364936984475102017-01-30T14:46:13.928-05:002017-01-30T14:46:13.928-05:00Great post! This is exactly what is going on. No o...Great post! This is exactly what is going on. No one addresses these companies lay off thousands and then whine to Congress for more H-1's because you know, 'Muricans don't have 'da skillz' to do these jobs. Total BS!The Lab Managerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17314871529571094106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-81268477219924512402017-01-30T14:43:52.689-05:002017-01-30T14:43:52.689-05:00So you say. Do you have any proof they are 'mo...So you say. Do you have any proof they are 'more' productive? Funny these same companies 20 years ago were hiring anyone with a technical degree even it was not computer science. The Lab Managerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17314871529571094106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-76927961232448131542017-01-30T14:26:30.895-05:002017-01-30T14:26:30.895-05:00It's libertarian to the extent that it permits...It's libertarian to the extent that it permits some employees to escape some degree of employment prohibition.<br /><br />It benefits you as an American by affording you a larger possible universe of workers to employ and lower consumer prices due to increased productivity.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11968441656658845395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-89547975811779961772017-01-30T13:43:35.617-05:002017-01-30T13:43:35.617-05:00F'ck the tech companies! Please show RW as a l...F'ck the tech companies! Please show RW as a libertarian how H-1B program is a libertarian program? How do I benefit as an American? Yes, I know, there are too damn many regulations and taxes. If I were not taxed to death, I could have a few bucks in my pocket so as not to be a wage slave. The Lab Managerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17314871529571094106noreply@blogger.com