tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post781017162060115268..comments2024-02-13T02:39:22.756-05:00Comments on EconomicPolicyJournal.com: Trump and Sessions Plan to Restrict Highly Skilled Foreign WorkersRobert Wenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-73578915649432983012017-01-10T16:36:31.094-05:002017-01-10T16:36:31.094-05:00You don't care but you addressed it by calling...You don't care but you addressed it by calling me a liar, so you do care. The effort has been decades long and shows no end. <br /><br />You're making declarations not arguments. How long have you been an engineer Mr. Torres? Do you have any experience with this market at all? How can you say increasing supply has not resulted in the stagnation of engineering wages? There is no shortage Jimmy Joe Meekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09559104650594440766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-67633965189181078782017-01-10T12:32:29.747-05:002017-01-10T12:32:29.747-05:00Re: Jimmy Joe Meeker,
─ "liar"? No, you...Re: Jimmy Joe Meeker,<br /><br />─ "liar"? No, you're clueless. ─<br /><br />Mmm, nope. You're a liar. It is NOT true that H1-B visas have caused salaries to "stagnate".<br /><br />─ When I was in highschool in the 1980s there was a push to get kids into engineering. ─<br /><br />I don't care.<br /><br /><br />─ is the H1-B visa program to prevent that bidding war OldMexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111465436836633221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-39707234406908802792017-01-10T12:22:05.683-05:002017-01-10T12:22:05.683-05:00Re: Jimmy Joe Meeker
─ H1-B is not freedom of ass...Re: Jimmy Joe Meeker<br /><br />─ H1-B is not freedom of association. ─<br /><br />In the sense that employers and immigrants should be free to contract without the impediment imposed by the State, be it with H1-B or whatever other mechanism, then YES, H1-B is anti-freedom of association. It is more akin to Central Economic Planning. OldMexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111465436836633221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-79465718357418774632017-01-10T12:18:39.862-05:002017-01-10T12:18:39.862-05:00Re: Matt@Occidentalism dot org,
─ The H-1B progra...Re: Matt@Occidentalism dot org,<br /><br />─ The H-1B program socializes costs on the taxpayers, ─<br /><br />WHAT? No, it is not!<br /><br />─ It's a redistribution of wealth program ─<br /><br />Oh, come on! What a gawd-damned liar you are!<br /><br />The H1-B program is merely a work visa. The person has to be sponsored by a company willing to employ him or her. Where's the involuntaryOldMexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111465436836633221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-78786852535558489072017-01-10T12:16:08.647-05:002017-01-10T12:16:08.647-05:00@Francisco Torres
I have *some* sympathy for them...@Francisco Torres<br /><br />I have *some* sympathy for them because it is true that they are victims of the state. It's wrong for government to force them to pay to maintain land that poor brown people are allowed to stand on if that's not what they want. In a perfect ancap world they would be allowed to found their own gated community "cultural enclaves" that Hoppe gets so Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11968441656658845395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-3334253795036348092017-01-10T12:04:29.307-05:002017-01-10T12:04:29.307-05:00@Jimmy Joe Meeker
It's freer than blocking th...@Jimmy Joe Meeker<br /><br />It's freer than blocking them from immigrating altogether.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11968441656658845395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-14787667208868382942017-01-10T11:32:29.336-05:002017-01-10T11:32:29.336-05:00Re: The Lab Manager,
─ The illegal immigration ne...Re: The Lab Manager,<br /><br />─ The illegal immigration needs to be curtailed and any Greencards in process need to be revoked. ─<br /><br />Including those of people married to Americans, I presume?<br /><br />I told you all that Trumpistas were not serious about LEGAL immigration.<br /><br />─ The unemployment in this country is in bad shape even for those with degrees. ─<br /><br />Maybe theOldMexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111465436836633221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-38678542311366890672017-01-10T11:25:59.172-05:002017-01-10T11:25:59.172-05:00Re: Evan Smiley,
─ It's shocking how many com...Re: Evan Smiley,<br /><br />─ It's shocking how many commenters are disparaging freedom of association (If only a small window of it) on a libertarian blog ─<br /><br />Trumpistas are not libertarians. Be that as it may, there are libertarians who argue against freedom of association when it comes to immigration by making appeals to the protection of the local culture (a tacit yet weird OldMexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111465436836633221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-12830538176700188142017-01-10T11:01:13.094-05:002017-01-10T11:01:13.094-05:00H1-B is not freedom of association.
H1-B is not freedom of association. <br /><br />Jimmy Joe Meekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09559104650594440766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-67833220778337060582017-01-10T10:51:13.685-05:002017-01-10T10:51:13.685-05:00Torres,
"liar"? No, you're clueles...Torres, <br /><br />"liar"? No, you're clueless.<br /><br />When I was in highschool in the 1980s there was a push to get kids into engineering. That has not ended. It has ramped up. It's 2017 and there still hasn't been any sort of bidding up of talent to encourage children into the field. What there is, is the H1-B visa program to prevent that bidding war by increasing Jimmy Joe Meekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09559104650594440766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-44587487858612168702017-01-10T10:29:08.586-05:002017-01-10T10:29:08.586-05:00The H-1B program socializes costs on the taxpayers...The H-1B program socializes costs on the taxpayers, and privatizes profits for corporations. It's a redistribution of wealth program, not free market at all. Sadly, I am not surprised to see you come out in favor of this program, Wenzel. Matt@Occidentalism.orghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02395220402283030311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-12804750930968815162017-01-10T08:39:27.730-05:002017-01-10T08:39:27.730-05:00It's shocking how many commenters are disparag...It's shocking how many commenters are disparaging freedom of association (If only a small window of it) on a libertarian blog.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11968441656658845395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-14596408880419036292017-01-10T08:09:43.199-05:002017-01-10T08:09:43.199-05:00"It is false that salaries are stagnating. Th..."It is false that salaries are stagnating. The reason why tech companies are looking for workers outside the US is because there are really not enough engineers in the US."<br /><br />The illegal immigration needs to be curtailed and any Greencards in process need to be revoked. The unemployment in this country is in bad shape even for those with degrees.Anyone who believes the BS that The Lab Managerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17314871529571094106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-54953214267740490362017-01-09T17:16:03.903-05:002017-01-09T17:16:03.903-05:00Re: Stuffed Pimento,
─ H1-B is a scam.─
It's...Re: Stuffed Pimento,<br /><br />─ H1-B is a scam.─<br /><br />It's not a scam. You're the second person who says that here. It is clear Trumpistas were never serious about wanting legal immigration and that their only problem was with the so-called "illegal" type, but it is clear Trumpistas speak from both sides of their collectivist mouths.<br /><br />─ I'm ambivalent OldMexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111465436836633221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-41864648435071224902017-01-09T17:09:59.926-05:002017-01-09T17:09:59.926-05:00Re: FormerLibertarian,
─ Why is it I rarely see a ...Re: FormerLibertarian,<br />─ Why is it I rarely see a Libertarian complaining about Whites being blocked from having freedom of employment movement into USA ? ─<br /><br />Maybe because libertarians are not white supremacists unlike... Oh, I don't have to say it.<br /><br />─ This nation foolishly takes in almost a million useless third worlders [sic] a year ─<br /><br />They're clearly OldMexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111465436836633221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-14798991785518117252017-01-09T17:07:37.013-05:002017-01-09T17:07:37.013-05:00Re: Jimmy Joe Meeker,
─ For thirty years or more ...Re: Jimmy Joe Meeker,<br /><br />─ For thirty years or more there has been a push to get american kids interested in fields like engineering but H1-B visas have caused salaries to stagnate ─<br /><br />Liar.<br /><br />It is false that salaries are stagnating. The reason why tech companies are looking for workers outside the US is because there are really not enough engineers in the US. It is notOldMexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111465436836633221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-25432578149926802232017-01-09T17:02:16.881-05:002017-01-09T17:02:16.881-05:00Re: Neil,
─ What happens is the companies bring i...Re: Neil,<br /><br />─ What happens is the companies bring in Indian computer techs who will work for very low wages to replace the American tech workforce. ─<br /><br />You can read from the above that Trumpistas were never serious about wanting legal immigration. They don't want immigration, period. It's all about feelings, about envy.<br /><br />What's your problem with companies OldMexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111465436836633221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-45392695045678361362017-01-09T16:57:26.888-05:002017-01-09T16:57:26.888-05:00Re: Unknown,
─ The H-1B program is currently a sc...Re: Unknown,<br /><br />─ The H-1B program is currently a scam. ─<br /><br />It is not a scam.<br /><br />─ It creates indentured servants out of foreign workers [...] ─<br /><br />What complete nonsense. It is one thing that a worker would prefer to stay in the US but it is quite another that his or her preference means he or she is being "indentured".OldMexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111465436836633221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-84801870737055110802017-01-09T16:54:20.762-05:002017-01-09T16:54:20.762-05:00Re: Evan Smiley,
─ I often wonder how much is eco...Re: Evan Smiley,<br /><br />─ I often wonder how much is economic ignorance versus these people just preferring displays of nationalistic solidarity over economics as such. ─<br /><br />I would think that there are those who pander to the ignorant and repeat the same fallacies over and over, especially on Tee Vee.OldMexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111465436836633221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-21208754877547265002017-01-09T16:12:41.325-05:002017-01-09T16:12:41.325-05:00Why is it I rarely see a Libertarian complaining a...<br />Why is it I rarely see a Libertarian complaining about Whites being blocked from having freedom of employment movement into USA ?<br />Yet they howl like they are being tortured when anyone suggests a halt to third world immigration.<br /><br />This nation foolishly takes in almost a million useless third worlders a year under the legal immigration program.<br /><br />If these 100,000 "FormerLibertarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11386538794443236034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-66597190361942652372017-01-09T13:19:51.849-05:002017-01-09T13:19:51.849-05:00H1-B is a scam. I'm ambivalent about the high ...H1-B is a scam. I'm ambivalent about the high skilled workers part, but the program is abused especially by wealthy Chinese who buy their citizenship through "investment" in new business. They grease the right sponsor who get them in and then the investment is never made. The program is largely a scam.Stuffed Pimentohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03631687618198640700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-90401901744961149812017-01-09T13:05:53.016-05:002017-01-09T13:05:53.016-05:00It seems others have already hit the major points,...It seems others have already hit the major points, but there are more. For thirty years or more there has been a push to get american kids interested in fields like engineering but H1-B visas have caused salaries to stagnate and thus american kids with the intelligence to do so go into finance or other well rewarded fields instead. <br /><br />The rules of the H1-B visa program also mitigate someJimmy Joe Meekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09559104650594440766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-31344867809019855442017-01-09T12:54:34.575-05:002017-01-09T12:54:34.575-05:00A high end version of the Wal-Mart model except ex...A high end version of the Wal-Mart model except explicitly employing educated foreign nationals. It's enterprising but it isn't "free."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-2546278628543491302017-01-09T11:20:14.223-05:002017-01-09T11:20:14.223-05:00Living right down the street from Micron Technolog...Living right down the street from Micron Technology in Boise, Idaho, my apartment complex is filled with engineers, the majority of whom are from India. <br /><br />I don't see how Micron - and also all consumers benefiting from their labor - wouldn't be unaffected by Trump's nonsense. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00799608136560732041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-5679822995590730212017-01-09T08:33:20.542-05:002017-01-09T08:33:20.542-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01380636832924052375noreply@blogger.com