tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post7980058469164500678..comments2024-02-13T02:39:22.756-05:00Comments on EconomicPolicyJournal.com: "There is no beating the State on the armaments question. "Robert Wenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-8972542346481469062014-04-17T02:22:18.480-04:002014-04-17T02:22:18.480-04:00Quote: " Only non-violent resistance is right...Quote: " Only non-violent resistance is right."<br /><br />As Herman Cain would say: "BULL-CRAP".<br /><br />Tell it to the hundreds of millions throughout history who have been slaughtered and enslaved because they did not have arms to defend themselves and defeat the state.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-68185115387827781202014-04-16T14:50:16.972-04:002014-04-16T14:50:16.972-04:00Not talking about war or taking over some regime. ...Not talking about war or taking over some regime. Talking about self defense and protecting property. Insurgencies aren't exactly nonviolent. <br /><br />However, this whole rancher thing really boils down to taxes, which is the first act of agression. And when you look into it, it's more mundane then it looks. It's been going on for years.<br /><br />-- Stupid Poster aka Mr. FirstAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-49061731605822259842014-04-16T13:16:52.436-04:002014-04-16T13:16:52.436-04:00Non-violent resistance didn't work out so well...Non-violent resistance didn't work out so well for the Jews of Europe. I am always fascinated by the fact that men, women, and children willingly walked themselves into gas chambers. <br /><br />https://i.imgur.com/eSnLUgE.jpg<br /><br />The idea that non-violent resistance is the only answer also ignores our own country's dismal forays into armed conflicts after WWII, where small Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-7389888276518234382014-04-16T12:54:34.789-04:002014-04-16T12:54:34.789-04:00They are also equating "war" with standi...They are also equating "war" with standing directly in front of the govt and fighting it out. This is not how it would be done - it would be a 4GW aka a modern guerrilla battle of attrition that demoralizes the bullies into leaving us alone. <br /><br />Heck, what if our govt started rounding people up and putting them in camps just as many govts did in the last century? Would it be Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-10333152203082923182014-04-16T12:48:37.058-04:002014-04-16T12:48:37.058-04:00That is definitely part of it, but the other part ...That is definitely part of it, but the other part has been expressed by the unions and sheriffs in both states: they don't want their men getting shot attempting to enforce a stupid law that won't affect crime and tha they don't have enough manpower to enforce with all of the people defying it. <br /><br />So then the excplicit and implicit threats of violence and self defense Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-13235782255110797682014-04-16T12:19:56.654-04:002014-04-16T12:19:56.654-04:00Bingo. Now there IS a point where it could be done...Bingo. Now there IS a point where it could be done another way but you would need MILLIONS of people behind you (another poster was too stupid to see that's where I was heading). And even then there's STILL no guarantee you're going to get liberty out of it.<br /><br />For the sake of argument let's say we have some violent revolution real soon. What the hell good is it since mostMikehttp://www.antiwar.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-67392987136801431952014-04-16T12:13:32.119-04:002014-04-16T12:13:32.119-04:00And to Mr. First Off:
Let me know when you're...And to Mr. First Off:<br /><br />Let me know when you're ready to think.Mikehttp://www.antiwar.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-90183701916944034512014-04-16T12:12:48.203-04:002014-04-16T12:12:48.203-04:00"Face it Mike, you got owned on this one. You..."Face it Mike, you got owned on this one. You should've just let it go..."<br /><br />Only in your own deluded mind pal. Stupid is as stupid does.Mikehttp://www.antiwar.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-27107271014797499322014-04-16T09:04:33.595-04:002014-04-16T09:04:33.595-04:00Face it Mike, you got owned on this one. You shou...Face it Mike, you got owned on this one. You should've just let it go...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-85580692794790518852014-04-16T08:22:56.873-04:002014-04-16T08:22:56.873-04:00Well ...to this day, the USG can't tell an Afg...Well ...to this day, the USG can't tell an Afghani man to buckle up while riding in his car.(actually, a USG stooge COULD tell a real man to "buckle up" but the same stooge will probably get his head cut off).<br />And there damn sure ain't no Obamacare.JT out of Barrownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-72864094318980980212014-04-16T08:00:24.243-04:002014-04-16T08:00:24.243-04:00I think that's because our form of government ...I think that's because our form of government relies on the illusion of voluntarism. They say you get to vote, you are a part of the system so the adult thing to do if the government does something bad to you is to suck it up and just vote again in the next election. The more violence they have to use to enforce their edicts, particularly when those they initiating violence upon are obviouslyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14539835815067680933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-78247386641738525102014-04-16T07:52:12.636-04:002014-04-16T07:52:12.636-04:00size and resources doesn't necessarily mean vi...size and resources doesn't necessarily mean victory. Insurgencies have been successful against the world's superpowers time and time again. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14539835815067680933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-18557336980012732212014-04-16T07:49:50.480-04:002014-04-16T07:49:50.480-04:00I disagree with the definition of war in this post...I disagree with the definition of war in this post. War is just another political tool. The ends are certain, if only to those who are sending the military to war. They certainly have a goal in mind. In the case of the American Revolution, the end was independence from Britain. The end of the Civil War was to prevent the south from seceding and forming their own confederacy. <br /><br />The ends Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14539835815067680933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-13179185427777239452014-04-16T05:34:07.134-04:002014-04-16T05:34:07.134-04:00First off, what is up with this rhetoric that the ...First off, what is up with this rhetoric that the ranchers is directly taking them on? Give them credit where credit is due. If they had not taken up arms, we would have never heard of this until after the fact as often the case. I mean, that whole 30 man elimination SWAT team just totally obliterated them when they did took up arms. Secondly, it's the government and Reid that is going Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-27247334049311423102014-04-16T04:52:00.349-04:002014-04-16T04:52:00.349-04:00There is absolutely no possible way that a bunch o...There is absolutely no possible way that a bunch of rustics are going to defeat His Majesty's armed forces as they are unbeatable and the strongest and most professional force in the world. All ye who contemplate armed struggle shall tremble before The British Grenadiers and live to regret your treasonous insubordination to the one true crown ordained by God.<br /><br />http://youtu.be/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-54334422372872709102014-04-16T04:00:11.509-04:002014-04-16T04:00:11.509-04:00Then bend your knees and kneel. Don't complain...Then bend your knees and kneel. Don't complain about the weight of those chains being placed on you. For me, I would rather die on my feet than kneel to be a slave. Molan LabeNatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05073699351742865142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-7297417739580007342014-04-15T23:43:10.369-04:002014-04-15T23:43:10.369-04:00JW: Troll.JW: Troll.Mikehttp://www.antiwar.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-10348326638814916422014-04-15T23:42:46.928-04:002014-04-15T23:42:46.928-04:00And this people is an example of a fucking idiot. ...And this people is an example of a fucking idiot. Taking things out of context and caricaturing what I said.<br /><br />And hey pal, good luck when they send 30 SWAT team guys with military grade equipment and an extermination mentality. What are you going to do, eh? Strike them down with a magic wand?<br />Idiot.Mikehttp://www.antiwar.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-85753776217107946572014-04-15T23:28:00.417-04:002014-04-15T23:28:00.417-04:00Exactly! Britain and NZ/Canada/Aus do not have a ...Exactly! Britain and NZ/Canada/Aus do not have a first or second amendment. In fact, the guardian had to come to the us specifically bc of our first amendment just to continue doing the snowden leak stories! They made that very clear in their editorial explaining why they set up shop in America and had American media partners. This took place after the British govt stormed the paper and just Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-29923155387274148792014-04-15T22:55:03.400-04:002014-04-15T22:55:03.400-04:00Jerry, why don't you take the Rev. T. Lawrence...Jerry, why don't you take the Rev. T. Lawrence Shannon's long swim to China instead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-45850535017637865222014-04-15T21:56:33.799-04:002014-04-15T21:56:33.799-04:00You're absolutely right. Non-violent resistan...You're absolutely right. Non-violent resistance will totally work. When CPS or some agency comes and kidnaps my kid, I will apply nonviolent resistance. Don't know how that will work or how it will go down or, for that matter, how I'll get my kid back but it will work. Heck, I don't even know what nonviolence resistance is when it comes to love of a child. Wouldn't ever Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-82570779025086300412014-04-15T21:34:31.615-04:002014-04-15T21:34:31.615-04:00Got to agree with Rockwell here, violence or even ...Got to agree with Rockwell here, violence or even the threat of violence against the state will only result in more violence. Direction confrontation will always have blowback, there is no denying that fact.<br /><br />As we all know the state has more resources that the citizenry does and even if a few state thugs might have a change of heart, the state will just recruit more thugs who to take NY Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05131625126863049626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-8978973091277555902014-04-15T20:13:31.760-04:002014-04-15T20:13:31.760-04:00Disagree. We are already seeing two state governm...Disagree. We are already seeing two state governments back down out of fear in enforcing the latest gun ban schemes in CT and NY, not to mention CO residents openly refusing to obey the bg check laws. <br /><br />They are only doing this bc they don't want to get shot - no other reason. The worst tyrants of the last century who killed 200 million plus were very careful to disarm anyone in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-4212833199069880002014-04-15T19:52:17.567-04:002014-04-15T19:52:17.567-04:00Let's give the United States back to the nativ...Let's give the United States back to the native Americans. Smoke a peace pipe with them, give them back their land and swim to England. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-68240392173369654882014-04-15T19:51:09.787-04:002014-04-15T19:51:09.787-04:00No, just no. Don't know much about Canada But ...No, just no. Don't know much about Canada But for Australia and New Zealand, there is no decentralization at all, in fact the Government makes everything its business, plays one group off against another and treats its citizens like Indians on the reservation, constitutionally speaking, When the government finds the suggestion that its power might be restrained in some way, overnight the law Heathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15417060063126394938noreply@blogger.com