tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post1168667403376355839..comments2024-02-13T02:39:22.756-05:00Comments on EconomicPolicyJournal.com: Just Where Exactly Did Jeff Tucker Get His "Brutalist Libertarian" Theory From?Robert Wenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-75529056934331589332014-03-25T12:52:14.644-04:002014-03-25T12:52:14.644-04:00@Gene Callahan
I addressed that objection previou...@Gene Callahan<br /><br />I addressed that objection previously and I restated to show that it wasn't a binary.<br />I restated it like this:<br /><br />"Those who use such divisions are doing what Tucker is doing."<br />The thread is below:<br /><br />http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2014/03/on-neocon-libertarians.html<br /><br />Lila RajivaMarch 21, 2014 at 6:14 PM<br /><br />Lila Rajivahttp://www.mindbodypolitic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-84909775141166527312014-03-25T11:42:07.871-04:002014-03-25T11:42:07.871-04:00"Anyone who makes binary divisions - either y..."Anyone who makes binary divisions - either you understand...or you don't...either you accept..or you don't..belongs with Jeff Tucker in the brutalist versus humanitarian school of strawman incapacity for thinking masquerading as thought..."<br /><br />Hey, that is a great binary division you just made there, Lila!gcallahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065877215969589482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-788320125846152752014-03-24T19:17:01.516-04:002014-03-24T19:17:01.516-04:00After Tucker's piece, FEE linked to the story ...After Tucker's piece, FEE linked to the story with a a tweet or Facebook question that went something like 'We all must decide. Brutalist or good libertarian. Which are you?'<br /><br />Definitely not aimed at 6 or 7 people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-30930199363124803052014-03-22T23:06:42.938-04:002014-03-22T23:06:42.938-04:00^ why society is in the predicament it is in to be...^ why society is in the predicament it is in to begin with. lolJackhttp://www.libertysetsquare.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-769935221456251232014-03-22T18:34:16.096-04:002014-03-22T18:34:16.096-04:00I appreciate that feedback. I'll do it.I appreciate that feedback. I'll do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-60134403903354368792014-03-22T16:36:50.879-04:002014-03-22T16:36:50.879-04:00@Jack
Yeah...kumbaya...whatever..
Run along, now....@Jack<br /><br />Yeah...kumbaya...whatever..<br />Run along, now.<br />Junior high is across the road...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-64923735776958698622014-03-22T16:07:35.316-04:002014-03-22T16:07:35.316-04:00I feel that amongst bloggers, there should be a mu...I feel that amongst bloggers, there should be a mutual respect and presumption of legitimacy.<br /><br />If you or any other blogger wishes to have their content taken for what it is, to have the audience deal with what is written, not with some conspiracy theory as to who put them up to write it, then the only reasonable thing to do is extend to other bloggers the same respect you would wish Jackhttp://www.libertysetsquare.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-24249917054046504842014-03-22T01:44:04.136-04:002014-03-22T01:44:04.136-04:00The Fountainhead was by far a more entertaining re...The Fountainhead was by far a more entertaining read! I tried reading 'Atlas Shrugged' several times and failed.<br /><br />Read 'The Fountainhead'! ... for fun. (I'm not a huge Ayn Rand fanboy by any means, but it's still a great book.)Christoph Dollishttp://facebook.com/ChristophDollisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-73848221935360107592014-03-21T22:15:36.219-04:002014-03-21T22:15:36.219-04:00@Jack X
Glad you came by to defend yourself. I wo...@Jack X<br /><br />Glad you came by to defend yourself. I wouldn't leave a comment on a blog I didn't know. Had way too much trouble from it. IP addresses and so on.<br /><br />The blog coming out of nowhere comment is not because your blog started later than mine.<br />There are other things which signal something artificial. <br /><br />I didn't misunderstand the imagery. I quite Lila Rajivahttp://www.mindbodypolitic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-69455188224385373712014-03-21T20:53:42.340-04:002014-03-21T20:53:42.340-04:00Hi, Lila
I'm Jack, the author of that piece.
...Hi, Lila<br /><br />I'm Jack, the author of that piece.<br /><br />My site could hardly be devoted to Tucker's piece: I set it up for my own reasons, as you can read about in the About page: I decided to start blogging. Simple as that. <br /><br />As for a gorilla "meme": I'm afraid you misunderstood my symbolism.<br /><br />The 'gorilla in the room' is the fact thatJackhttp://www.libertysetsquare.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-65595807890314701362014-03-21T10:01:18.149-04:002014-03-21T10:01:18.149-04:00Tucker ups the ante via proxy. Very interesting. W...Tucker ups the ante via proxy. Very interesting. Wonder why he didn't argue that himself?<br />So now we know that North is on the target list. Vance might be too.<br /><br />I think this chap's in his over his head if he thinks he can settle disputes about what constitutes property, offense, image, right, boundary, civilized, or anything else, in one blog post. Notice the reiteration ofLila Rajivahttp://www.mindbodypolitic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-17787037674060033032014-03-20T18:28:41.564-04:002014-03-20T18:28:41.564-04:00http://mindbodypolitic.com/2014/03/20/you-decide-b...http://mindbodypolitic.com/2014/03/20/you-decide-brutalists-vs-humanitarians-vol-5/<br />I illustrated the brutalists vs. humanitarian divide, so all the retards (oops- brutalist!) among us, starting with me, can figure it out.Lila Rajivahttp://www.mindbodypolitic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-15155081886900608882014-03-20T13:57:58.295-04:002014-03-20T13:57:58.295-04:00My rejoinder, from a conservative Catholic perspec...My rejoinder, from a conservative Catholic perspective: http://the-american-catholic.com/2014/03/20/the-real-brutalism-a-critique-of-jeffrey-tucker/Bomnchampshttp://the-american-catholic.com/2014/03/20/the-real-brutalism-a-critique-of-jeffrey-tucker/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-82219243233117888232014-03-20T08:47:40.387-04:002014-03-20T08:47:40.387-04:00@Anonymous at 12:55
Oh then that's it....that&...@Anonymous at 12:55<br />Oh then that's it....that's the immediate reason.<br />So Tucker reverses it and turns it into libertarians are brutalists. <br />So now we know whose side he's on - the state's.<br />Told you it was propaganda not a serious statement of belief.Lila Rajivahttp://www.mindbodypolitic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-8205710967416213032014-03-20T00:55:07.864-04:002014-03-20T00:55:07.864-04:00Freedom Feens did an episode where they compared B...Freedom Feens did an episode where they compared Brutalist architecture to the State in June 2012: <br />http://www.freedomfeens.com/2012/05/27/weed-is-a-gateway-drug-to-being-president/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-37313053748557975912014-03-19T22:49:27.483-04:002014-03-19T22:49:27.483-04:00“When absolute self-ownership and the non-aggressi...“When absolute self-ownership and the non-aggression principles are taken to their full logical conclusion, you end up with, for example, Rothbard's defense of the rights of parents to abandon and withhold nourishment to their children (see his Ethics of Liberty, Ch. 14.)”<br /><br />Or, one could conclude that Rothbard was wrong, and that this is not the “full logical conclusion.” It is bionic mosquitohttp://bionicmosquito.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-9488362534656571712014-03-19T22:34:04.066-04:002014-03-19T22:34:04.066-04:00I'm your huckleberry. Just thought we ought no...I'm your huckleberry. Just thought we ought not throw out Baby Binary with the bathwater. It's either true or it ain't, so they say.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10093015817454848847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-6523550977447500732014-03-19T20:14:59.312-04:002014-03-19T20:14:59.312-04:00Daily Paul forum has some of the reasons for this...Daily Paul forum has some of the reasons for this piece and the likely targets.<br /><br />http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?435995-Jeffrey-Tucker-launches-Liberty-me!<br /><br />Lila Rajivahttp://www.mindbodypolitic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-14644691091504258512014-03-19T18:55:09.350-04:002014-03-19T18:55:09.350-04:00I would beat the shit out of anyone who called me ...I would beat the shit out of anyone who called me unkind or uncaring. <br /><br />My "brutalist libertarianism" comes from my deeply held belief that being kind and respectful of our fellow man, our beasts of burden, our land and water and trees is intrinsic and indivisible from my belief in every man's right to his own life, his own labors, and his own God. (Sorry for the mix of &RDF2https://www.blogger.com/profile/14340534647561133098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-50880454683400409012014-03-19T18:48:22.112-04:002014-03-19T18:48:22.112-04:00@Rick Fitz,
Your last few lines were actually mor...@Rick Fitz,<br /><br />Your last few lines were actually morally sublime.<br />What strikes me about Tucker's piece is how simple-minded it is. <br /><br />There are plenty of Christians who believe that acting out gay sexuality violates religious teaching, but nonetheless are NOT bigots. <br /><br />They are not only not bigots, they would go out of their way to help and stand up for gays Lila Rajivahttp://www.mindbodypolitic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-21301345516533165432014-03-19T18:24:47.611-04:002014-03-19T18:24:47.611-04:00Thank you for your kindness. You are clearly not a...Thank you for your kindness. You are clearly not a brutalist in my humble estimation. Consult Tucker though for an actual ruling on that. <br /><br />:)<br />Nick Badalamentihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015961786370759940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-792261089075228502014-03-19T18:20:36.895-04:002014-03-19T18:20:36.895-04:00"JUST DON'T FUCKING KILL AND ROB IN THE N..."JUST DON'T FUCKING KILL AND ROB IN THE NAME OF WELL-BEING OF OTHERS.<br /><br />Why is this so hard to understand?"<br /><br />Because we are now, in the midst of a rise in popularity for libertarian philosophy, dealing with a bunch of fucking liberals in libertarian disguise, or those libertarians who are afraid of this "P.R." problem libertarianism seems to have in the Tonyhttp://deindividualistinternational.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-76264685526595040562014-03-19T17:02:53.624-04:002014-03-19T17:02:53.624-04:00DORIS KERNS TUCKRDORIS KERNS TUCKRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-53952684323635124832014-03-19T16:56:40.108-04:002014-03-19T16:56:40.108-04:00"let's keep things a lot more civil, and ..."let's keep things a lot more civil, and try to advance the Liberty community not divide it." Yes, of course. Certain people get called "brutalists", object, then for objecting get accused of dividing the liberty movement. Do you always argue with such an absurdly stacked deck?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-4167665148831283252014-03-19T16:53:27.574-04:002014-03-19T16:53:27.574-04:00A "brutalist" libertarian position does ...A "brutalist" libertarian position does not allow for the certainty or even the possibility of positive moral duties, such as friendship or love, toward others beyond the negative duty of NAP." This is patently false. The only thing that the NAP says is that one can't use force to impose those duties that are objectively valid, if there be any, upon others. It says nothing Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com