tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post1306246138204570436..comments2024-02-13T02:39:22.756-05:00Comments on EconomicPolicyJournal.com: A Response to Sheldon Richman's EgalitarianismRobert Wenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-65362602609992945762014-04-09T15:02:53.350-04:002014-04-09T15:02:53.350-04:00I should have clarified up front: I am not actuall...I should have clarified up front: I am not actually planning to shoot anyone. I am simply trying to illustrate some context for the real point of the post above: what's the boundary between self defense and aggression?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-3152067893561028142014-04-09T14:55:02.442-04:002014-04-09T14:55:02.442-04:00The question of "initiatory" violence is...The question of "initiatory" violence is not limited to egalitarian libertarians. Suppose I have no interest in egalitarianism, but:<br />1) My neighbor has repeatedly voted money out of my pocket<br />2) My neighbor has voted for a sovietized healthcare bureaucracy that is likely to shorten my life expectancy as the availability and quality of medical service drops.<br />3) My neighborAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-62597820055985672942014-04-06T23:33:49.800-04:002014-04-06T23:33:49.800-04:00Tony sez: "But i have to wonder at which poin...Tony sez: "But i have to wonder at which point the problem they create for themselves with egalitarian issues, will start to rationalize and justify initiatory force. "<br /><br />And until they do, I have no problem with them.Ed Ucationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15375062362847706272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-5260914525683060822014-04-06T21:59:02.828-04:002014-04-06T21:59:02.828-04:00@I actually think boycotts can be excessive.
Lib...@I actually think boycotts can be excessive. <br /><br />Libertarianism also presumes proportionality. <br />If someone has views that they can defend rationally, why should they be penalized for them to the point of losing their job? <br /><br />I am all for the right to association, but if an internet e-mob destroys someone's reputation and career with words like "racist" and &Lila Rajivahttp://www.mindbodypolitic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-77242754475685009242014-04-06T20:29:20.681-04:002014-04-06T20:29:20.681-04:00"But i have to wonder at which point the prob..."But i have to wonder at which point the problem they create for themselves with egalitarian issues, will start to rationalize and justify initiatory force. "<br /><br />Exactly! Great comment. <br /><br />It would only be natural that if they are to be "concerned" as Richman put it by things outside the NAP, that they only way they could act on this concern within current Nick Badalamentihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015961786370759940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-57175858387798776702014-04-06T20:19:13.925-04:002014-04-06T20:19:13.925-04:00Great point! Thanks for sharing.Great point! Thanks for sharing.Nick Badalamentihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015961786370759940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-60078627317730390002014-04-06T20:18:27.685-04:002014-04-06T20:18:27.685-04:00You make an interesting comment. I submitted a bri...You make an interesting comment. I submitted a brief to RW a couple of months ago title "Shunning as a libertarian tool."<br /><br />I think there is a place for it, RW rightfully questioned if engagement might not be better-all of this was in the context of the NYT's/Walter Block thing at the time.<br /><br />I'm still of a mind that there might be a good time & place for Nick Badalamentihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015961786370759940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-47737594007586069232014-04-06T19:23:24.392-04:002014-04-06T19:23:24.392-04:00As Professor R. Long has pointed out it is legitim...As Professor R. Long has pointed out it is legitimate to meet violent oppression with force, but non violent oppression can only legitimately be fought non-violently. Donald F. Lintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07503949724806402186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-11089873189108440932014-04-06T19:12:35.453-04:002014-04-06T19:12:35.453-04:00Rothbard tackled the questions raised with a theor...Rothbard tackled the questions raised with a theory on reciprocity. Hence the shun and the boycott, while acts of violence, are responsive, as is organizing politically, which is usually an ugly thing, to ward off those powers who want to tolerate trespassing and forced integration. All this talk of racism neglects the man behind the curtain.<br /><br />Richman is running cover for the man Local_Alenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-89809683899558661952014-04-06T17:17:25.292-04:002014-04-06T17:17:25.292-04:00I bet the bleeding hearts are all for voluntary su...I bet the bleeding hearts are all for voluntary subordination if it involves S&M - then it's empowerment and feminist.<br /><br />But being subordinate to your boss or to a priest or to a spouse - that's pure evil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-74615603685910826092014-04-06T16:27:11.549-04:002014-04-06T16:27:11.549-04:00Like i do Tucker, i still respect Sheldon Richman ...Like i do Tucker, i still respect Sheldon Richman for his history and his many contributions to the very "simple" and "pure" libertarianism that both of these guys now have such a moral problem with.<br /><br />But i feel as though their minds are changing, that they are wrestling with issues that they have made important to the degree that simply libertarianism isn't Tonyhttp://deindividualistinternational.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com