tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post2497521967582710699..comments2024-02-13T02:39:22.756-05:00Comments on EconomicPolicyJournal.com: Stop Telling Me to "Shop Locally"Robert Wenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-17983680351925521562017-12-08T15:40:59.350-05:002017-12-08T15:40:59.350-05:00Stop Telling Me to "Shop Locally Libertarian&...Stop Telling Me to "Shop Locally Libertarian" <br /><br />Should we shop libertarian? If so, what does a libertarian business model look like? You could argue that Walmart is libertarian by getting the most value from the force of government and passing that value to its customers. Their motives probably have nothing to do with libertarianism but there is an argument for the end resultsAlexZouglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09903419350475485505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-33971019672488804892017-12-07T16:28:24.440-05:002017-12-07T16:28:24.440-05:00@Welorf: I agree gov't intervention and the a...@Welorf: I agree gov't intervention and the attendant corruption is a problem. Yet, as Jimmy suggests, maybe WMT likes the way things are. Crony capitalists tend to like privatized profits and socialized losses (or other costs that increase profits). You think maybe WMT's lobbyists have more "pull" than me, you and Jimmy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-10288139634883879382017-12-07T12:43:12.224-05:002017-12-07T12:43:12.224-05:00@ Jimmy, the problem then, is not Walmart, the pro...@ Jimmy, the problem then, is not Walmart, the problem is government stepping beyond its bounds to protect property rights. You should not be lamenting over Walmart accepting payment from customers, you should be lamenting the fact that the government steals from certain groups of people to give a percentage of that to another group of people. Get rid of government welfare, and the supposed "Welorfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14481028474677255991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-84812691740090505972017-12-07T08:24:16.240-05:002017-12-07T08:24:16.240-05:00@F. Torres & Rick Miller: The wages are low en...@F. Torres & Rick Miller: The wages are low enough to qualify for a panoply of means tested type gov't bennies. This is "reported" in many of the sources I cited previously. <br /><br />@Rick Miller: The scenario I presented was meant simply to show how WMT could "nudge" employees sign up for bennies consensually as part of a greater economic calculation that could Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-41478491397050276202017-12-07T00:49:40.060-05:002017-12-07T00:49:40.060-05:00Hollow,
You say that "WMT workers are report...Hollow,<br /><br />You say that "WMT workers are reported to be paid low wages..."<br /><br />As compared to what?<br /><br />Would this reminder from the article you cited above change your mind about the the comparative tax burden of those who work at Walmart?:<br /><br />"...the presence of Wal-Mart at the top of the list is not necessarily unexpected given its size and the Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16466930384247466023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-1031982137803679892017-12-07T00:12:15.376-05:002017-12-07T00:12:15.376-05:00Re: Hollow Daze,
--- WMT workers are reported [sic...Re: Hollow Daze,<br />--- WMT workers are reported [sic] to be paid low wages ---<br /><br />"Are reported"? Again: Liar.OldMexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111465436836633221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-35293630790703137792017-12-07T00:09:35.425-05:002017-12-07T00:09:35.425-05:00Re: Hollow Haze,
You're one to talk. You pres...Re: Hollow Haze,<br /><br />You're one to talk. You presented an unsubstantiated assertion entirely based on your opinion regarding the wage level of Walmart workers. Because your opinion it is, no more than that. So don't come here expecting an argued response to your claptrap.OldMexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111465436836633221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-7559334312223094082017-12-06T23:05:32.474-05:002017-12-06T23:05:32.474-05:00"Walmart does not force any of its employees ..."Walmart does not force any of its employees to go on government assistance. Walmart does not force any of its employees to work for Walmart's market wages. "<br /><br />Those who qualify for welfare can bid their labor lower and thus end up with a higher income if they get the job over someone else. This distorts the labor market where Walmart is the largest employer. Walmart Jimmy Joe Meekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09559104650594440766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-88806673898195071172017-12-06T15:21:21.900-05:002017-12-06T15:21:21.900-05:00@Rick Miller: WMT workers are reported to be paid...@Rick Miller: WMT workers are reported to be paid low wages and it has been documented by others that many qualify for and receive a material amount of gov't bennies. Is that just a coincidence? Or is it possible the two are connected and represent an economic calculation that is consensually agreed to by WMT and its prospective employees on an extremely large scale? If an employer says IAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-65995133157303648392017-12-06T14:54:50.750-05:002017-12-06T14:54:50.750-05:00@Welorf: Personal anecdotes are interesting but t...@Welorf: Personal anecdotes are interesting but the research I've seen tells a different story. One interesting cite, although a bit dated, is as follows: http://www.politifact(dot)com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/dec/06/alan-grayson/alan-grayson-says-more-walmart-employees-medicaid-/<br /><br />There are many others that describe this phenomenon. Startpage wal-mart subsidy watch.<br /><Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-34028789870742349002017-12-06T13:26:42.848-05:002017-12-06T13:26:42.848-05:00Hollow,
Can you flush out the "practical eff...Hollow,<br /><br />Can you flush out the "practical effect" contention you are making?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16466930384247466023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-20712814175453574302017-12-06T13:08:35.289-05:002017-12-06T13:08:35.289-05:00Here is some reasoning; Walmart does not force any...Here is some reasoning; Walmart does not force any of its employees to go on government assistance. Walmart does not force any of its employees to work for Walmart's market wages. Government should not be in the welfare business, but it is; why not get yours? Government welfare is not Walmart's fault. It is the low class voters and sleazy politicians that steal from you and me, to give Welorfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14481028474677255991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-74544100002313210562017-12-06T09:13:24.624-05:002017-12-06T09:13:24.624-05:00@ F. Torres: Nice reasoned argument you got there...@ F. Torres: Nice reasoned argument you got there. I understand there is some controversy over the gov't benefits as a subsidy to WMT (and other large corps) issue but the practical effect exists. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-38053049699149224562017-12-05T19:32:37.859-05:002017-12-05T19:32:37.859-05:00Re: Hollow Daze,
--- Doesn't this guy know WM...Re: Hollow Daze,<br /><br />--- Doesn't this guy know WMT puts its workers on Fed Gov bennies as a matter of course to keep wages down? ---<br /><br />Liar. OldMexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16111465436836633221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-82969359766151569632017-12-05T15:54:02.484-05:002017-12-05T15:54:02.484-05:00Doesn't this guy know WMT puts its workers on ...Doesn't this guy know WMT puts its workers on Fed Gov bennies as a matter of course to keep wages down? Or the quality corners cut by vendors to maintain those "everyday low prices? How about Bezos' yuuuge contracts with the CIA which allow Amazon.com to be a "loss leader." There's nothing wrong with bigness, per se, but there are plenty of dark shadows to investigateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com