tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post2771242403522935058..comments2024-02-13T02:39:22.756-05:00Comments on EconomicPolicyJournal.com: An Examination Of Hans Hoppe's Anti-IP CaseRobert Wenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-75810492534322428502013-04-14T09:13:46.564-04:002013-04-14T09:13:46.564-04:00Well, Rothbard touched twice on IP issues in two d...Well, Rothbard touched twice on IP issues in two different books...both times in less than 2 pages each and hit a lot of points.<br /><br />Brevity is nothing to be ashamed of when making a point, if you you can't be concise then it's no one's fault but your own and you will obviously lose the message.<br /><br />Nick Badalamentihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015961786370759940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-32240500134220639922013-04-13T15:06:18.905-04:002013-04-13T15:06:18.905-04:00He's tried all of that already, but the pro-IP...He's tried all of that already, but the pro-IP crowd isn't getting it. Maybe it's because they don't like to read things larger than a couple of paragraphs.Evagelos Tsouloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14130807879115862384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-36509308353310107762013-04-12T17:58:25.035-04:002013-04-12T17:58:25.035-04:00Nothing is more un-Austrian than to treat cost and...Nothing is more un-Austrian than to treat cost and scarcity as an inherent attribute of things, and not as a necessary relationship between a mind and the objects of his actions, so necessary that without it there can be no economic theorizing at all.<br /><br />To be sure, the most blatant fallacy here, which no properly trained economist would commit, is to make "scarcity" Vincent Jappihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10040235346177304897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-29607073987522927842013-04-12T09:17:59.993-04:002013-04-12T09:17:59.993-04:00Ed Ucation,
I would say that secret telling canno...Ed Ucation,<br /><br />I would say that secret telling cannot be viewed separately from the implicit contract. "I'll tell you this secret if you promise to tell no one else." As already established, anti-IP does not mean anti-contract. The fact that the contract is most of the time implicit, makes it morally reprehensible to share the secret instead of legally wrong.<br /><br />As alan.szepieniechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11908149633893799139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-91366725019245491082013-04-11T22:54:59.370-04:002013-04-11T22:54:59.370-04:00@ Pete^3:
I guess your friends don't tell you...@ Pete^3:<br /><br />I guess your friends don't tell you any secrets, since you feel free to spread secrets around without their permission, because you can do whatever you want with your body.<br /><br />This quote from Bastiat comes to mind:<br />“When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal systemEd Ucationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15375062362847706272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-17877715821545664802013-04-11T22:48:56.566-04:002013-04-11T22:48:56.566-04:002 Pete^3:
Why are you cluttering up the blog post...2 Pete^3:<br /><br />Why are you cluttering up the blog posts with your thesis-long diatribes? If you can't make your point in 2-3 paragraphs, you should spend more time organizing your thoughts. Spare us these cauldrons of Pete's Weak Sauce.Ed Ucationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15375062362847706272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-43235694201899452962013-04-11T15:04:14.353-04:002013-04-11T15:04:14.353-04:00Answer for GoodsAndBodyCommunist:
"I get tha...Answer for GoodsAndBodyCommunist:<br /><br />"I get that you guys believe that copying someone's original work without his/her permission should be legal."<br /><br />The term "permission" would imply that the original creator has partial ownership claim over every body and material in the world such that other individuals have to acquire the sanction of said originator asAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15591978354639760240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-7290720405212329562013-04-11T14:50:39.612-04:002013-04-11T14:50:39.612-04:00Too bad Rothbard is not around so that Hoppe can s...Too bad Rothbard is not around so that Hoppe can show Rothbard the errors of his ways.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15591978354639760240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-63881959887526813562013-04-11T14:50:13.226-04:002013-04-11T14:50:13.226-04:00jackweil:
"If the "Drudge formula"...jackweil:<br /><br />"If the "Drudge formula" is not scarce, please supply the formula."<br /><br />If the number in my head is not scarce, please supply the number in my head.<br /><br />You pro-IP guys are so clueless. You keep harping on this same point as if it is a knockdown argument. It isn't. It's been exposed as an empty shell over and over again.<br /><br /Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15591978354639760240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-62372558461187987302013-04-11T14:45:23.542-04:002013-04-11T14:45:23.542-04:00Sigh @ Ed Ucation:
You guys are stuck in the same...Sigh @ Ed Ucation:<br /><br />You guys are stuck in the same circular argument. You assume IP is valid. Then you go on with this. If someone violates your property, he has violates your rights, and you have a legitimate right to stop him. But, if someone violates your copyright, he has not done nothing wrong, because IP is valid. Therefore, if you enforce it, you are not violating his property. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15591978354639760240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-59943019222138837702013-04-11T14:43:22.140-04:002013-04-11T14:43:22.140-04:00Independent discovery is not an illusion, if the c...Independent discovery is not an illusion, if the context is the *direct* connection between the parties who developed the idea at the same time, for example Liebniz and Newton, who independently discovered calculus, and Jevons and Menger, who independently discovered marginal utility.<br /><br />But going back far enough, yes, our ideas are greatly dependent on the first humans and subsequent Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15591978354639760240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-44289692534951333152013-04-11T11:41:34.325-04:002013-04-11T11:41:34.325-04:00Hoppe and Kinsella could not be any more clear tha...Hoppe and Kinsella could not be any more clear that by "scarce" they mean "rivalrous" and by "conflict" they mean people wanting to put the same rivalrous good to different uses.<br /><br />A rivalrous good is a good whose use by any one person for any one purpose necessarily excludes (or interferes with, or restricts) its use by any other person or for any other Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18191261587404343144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-59142131050462265982013-04-11T11:29:09.455-04:002013-04-11T11:29:09.455-04:00Yahtzee!Yahtzee!Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18191261587404343144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-71757199257329899882013-04-11T11:12:19.527-04:002013-04-11T11:12:19.527-04:00I would be happy with social power over intellectu...I would be happy with social power over intellectual copying, but no laws. Plagerisim is a great example of intellectualism self policing itself.<br /><br />Communisim was a disease of the intellect trying to invalidate property in physicaly scarce things. "dotComunisim" as you like to smear with is your attempt to make things that are easily made abundant into scarce physical property.awakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780156753223873571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-20291782065851591232013-04-11T10:21:17.612-04:002013-04-11T10:21:17.612-04:00Question for the dotCommunists:
I get that you gu...Question for the dotCommunists:<br /><br />I get that you guys believe that copying someone's original work without his/her permission should be legal. What I am wondering is, do you also believe that it is morally justified? For example, no one believes that cheating on your girlfriend should be made illegal, but most people would agree that such behavior is unethical. Do you believe thatEd Ucationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15375062362847706272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-51885068944666966762013-04-11T09:45:58.187-04:002013-04-11T09:45:58.187-04:00“…depends on how much time and money you want blow...“…depends on how much time and money you want blow in court rather than inventing, like Eli Whitney.”<br /><br />But what does this have to do with my point? Businessmen make decisions every day about what and where they want to invest time and money. The practicality of enforcing intellectual property rights is not an issue for libertarian debate. It is an issue for an individual businessman bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-5191856502740797932013-04-11T09:18:16.866-04:002013-04-11T09:18:16.866-04:00He means economic conflict, synonymous with econom...He means economic conflict, synonymous with economic scarcity. I don't understand why people's brains fall out of their heads on this issue. There is such dishonesty with regard to terms and definitions and their application in this debate. Ted Sonnierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15503098243357682066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-50692501713802822302013-04-11T09:05:25.799-04:002013-04-11T09:05:25.799-04:00Umm.. where did B go? If anyone is responsible he ...Umm.. where did B go? If anyone is responsible he must bear full responsibility. And once C tells 20 others are they all to be incarcerated as well? How about 40 others? Do you not understand that to try and investigate and incacerate breach of IP further than the A and B contract would be so enormously costly that only a State would be nessacary to persue such foolish actions. And foolish it awakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780156753223873571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-66003413061178292762013-04-11T08:39:11.696-04:002013-04-11T08:39:11.696-04:00depends on how much time and money you want blow i...depends on how much time and money you want blow in court rather than inventing, like Eli Whitney.Heathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15417060063126394938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-67030601725615573582013-04-11T08:30:55.268-04:002013-04-11T08:30:55.268-04:00@jackweil, I think you miss the point. What I'...@jackweil, I think you miss the point. What I'm saying is two fold. First it is most likely obvious (meaning that one of the main principles of user interaction is to minimise the number of clicks that a user needs to make to complete a task). In the case of Amazon's one click for payment, one doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to figure it out. You can implement (or express) the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-62995271159870699582013-04-11T08:24:42.289-04:002013-04-11T08:24:42.289-04:00And the fact that he is able to write it down, pro...And the fact that he is able to write it down, proves the existence of the electrical signals in his brain.<br />alan.szepieniechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11908149633893799139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-56452238581593826122013-04-11T06:06:24.577-04:002013-04-11T06:06:24.577-04:00That merely proves the existence of the paper.
That merely proves the existence of the paper.<br />alan.szepieniechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11908149633893799139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-3382745708529015122013-04-11T00:37:13.419-04:002013-04-11T00:37:13.419-04:00"A conflict is a verb that means an argument ..."A conflict is a verb that means an argument or disagreement between to parties. It can be over a thing, an idea, or anything."<br />http://ask.reference.com/web?q=What%20Is%20A%20Conflict?&o=100100<br />PHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10505462828969815943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-86196264076474204312013-04-11T00:05:29.298-04:002013-04-11T00:05:29.298-04:00True. The issue is now largely about after a contr...True. The issue is now largely about after a contract is made between A and B, and because of a breach the info is now with C, who should suffer the loss - A or C?<br /><br />I say anything less than independent discovery means C is in receipt of stolen goods. It would be unfair to make A suffer the loss because he invented the secret. Why should C get a windfall when C never put any effort into PHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10505462828969815943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-77372113660631315122013-04-10T23:55:08.229-04:002013-04-10T23:55:08.229-04:00He wrote it down, so it exists, so what's the ...He wrote it down, so it exists, so what's the formula?PHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10505462828969815943noreply@blogger.com