tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post2971989158049962518..comments2024-02-13T02:39:22.756-05:00Comments on EconomicPolicyJournal.com: How They Rig Election MachinesRobert Wenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-57028677590522690312012-01-03T01:49:04.949-05:002012-01-03T01:49:04.949-05:00Hey all you software guys, the central tabulator &...Hey all you software guys, the central tabulator "Gems" software was written MS Access. That should be all you need to know. To adjust the numbers, you just edit the entries in the underlying table. No audit trail, no fingerprints, no nothing. It's called "Access" for a reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-10503634946941347472012-01-02T22:17:24.132-05:002012-01-02T22:17:24.132-05:00I come across incompetence on a daily basis. Even...I come across incompetence on a daily basis. Even the "operations" groups of private sector investment banks routinely show gross incompetence due to laziness and negligence but most often it's from "it's not my responsibility"-type attitudes.<br /><br />If this type of negligence happens in the private sector, I can't even imagine what would happens in the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-84173084100646499772012-01-02T21:38:11.764-05:002012-01-02T21:38:11.764-05:00@geoih: I am going to guess you didn't watch t...@geoih: I am going to guess you didn't watch the video. My comments were not to infer that government is full of competent people but that if something as stupid as this very basic hack that is described on the video were to get placed into a production environment, the blame would lie entirely with the the elections office and their incompetence. If you watch the video, the questions appearAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-59592152802149519902012-01-02T20:02:55.069-05:002012-01-02T20:02:55.069-05:00Nobody can guarantee perfection in people or proce...Nobody can guarantee perfection in people or processes. The election officials in my district are honest. I know many of them personally. Nobody has disputed the results since the mark-sense card voting began in 1998. My district results during the 2000 election were never in question by anyone. No hanging chads here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-43280366835973733482012-01-02T18:45:04.157-05:002012-01-02T18:45:04.157-05:00Key phrases from the comments:
"if you have ...Key phrases from the comments:<br /><br />"if you have an elections office that is doing their job"<br /><br />"If the right controls are in place"<br /><br />"operational use by trusted personnel"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-90730216944417378852012-01-02T17:17:42.301-05:002012-01-02T17:17:42.301-05:00star-gazer
Isnt it common knowledge that the croo...star-gazer<br /><br />Isnt it common knowledge that the crooks are always one step ahead of those trying to stop them?<br /><br />Do you believe that Bush actually won Florida?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-73454859896207051412012-01-02T15:58:47.472-05:002012-01-02T15:58:47.472-05:00"If these elections offices are not doing thi..."If these elections offices are not doing this, then they are reckless in their approach to technology."<br /><br />Yes, local government, especially those in charge of elections, are staffed by the most capable, honest and uncorruptible of bureaucrats.geoihhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06228052543574335663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-9050004559892781762012-01-02T15:52:56.544-05:002012-01-02T15:52:56.544-05:00@Anon 3:09,
The ploy you referenced requires phys...@Anon 3:09,<br /><br />The ploy you referenced requires physical access to the equipment. With the right controls and testing in place 'access denied'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-2165401309445721232012-01-02T15:27:45.794-05:002012-01-02T15:27:45.794-05:00Just in case there are any others reading these co...Just in case there are any others reading these comments who have been living under a rock, here are some places to start...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.rawstory.com/news/2008/Cybersecurity_expert_raises_allegations_of_2004_0717.html" rel="nofollow">Cyber-security expert suggests Diebold tampered with 2002 election</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_exVfvC-cI" rel="Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-8893006507191212522012-01-02T15:09:31.701-05:002012-01-02T15:09:31.701-05:00http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/diebold-...http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/diebold-voting-machines-hacked-with-10-in-parts/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-50037181563215414342012-01-02T14:48:42.044-05:002012-01-02T14:48:42.044-05:00@Anon 1:16,
I tend to agree with you. I have been...@Anon 1:16,<br />I tend to agree with you. I have been in the software business for 40+ years. If the right controls are in place, the probability of rigged votes is near zero. Running a test with known balloting patterns (with and without errors) immediately prior to operational use by trusted personnel is about as safe as can be expected. In Florida, we use mark-sense cards that are Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-1445569315860902272012-01-02T14:04:15.398-05:002012-01-02T14:04:15.398-05:00unlike in the monetary sphere, paper is the real d...unlike in the monetary sphere, paper is the real deal here!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-72786105178888232132012-01-02T13:16:12.014-05:002012-01-02T13:16:12.014-05:00This guy giving testimony is full of crap. I quest...This guy giving testimony is full of crap. I question if he has ever implemented any system in his life. One of the first things you do with any system, whether it be a new system roll out or a patch is to cycle and regression test it for accuracy and load performance. If these elections offices are not doing this, then they are reckless in their approach to technology. Simple testing would haveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-11180820166650400152012-01-02T13:11:45.268-05:002012-01-02T13:11:45.268-05:00Demand paper ballots!Demand paper ballots!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-27370663934841227272012-01-02T12:50:16.569-05:002012-01-02T12:50:16.569-05:00Sounds too easy to go undetected. Sounds like the...Sounds too easy to go undetected. Sounds like they need to either check the source code right before the voting begins, or at least count all the receipts.<br /><br />I doubt either will happenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com