tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post426068569401843169..comments2024-02-13T02:39:22.756-05:00Comments on EconomicPolicyJournal.com: FEE: "A willingness to 'play the game' is absolutely vital if the liberty movement has any hope."Robert Wenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-56730844963255988082014-03-14T21:35:40.136-04:002014-03-14T21:35:40.136-04:00Education itself decimates that power. That you ar...Education itself decimates that power. That you are resigned to suffer through the mindless dictacts of the oppressors is hardly encouraging. Further, if Ron paul was correct in his assertion that the terror attacks are caused by our overt militarism, and a Ron paul paul presidency would end overt militarism, why pray tell, would terrorist attack the USA under Ron Paul's watch?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07880627280937503395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-45474503578314763172014-03-14T18:51:09.920-04:002014-03-14T18:51:09.920-04:00"Remember this one fact: Childs was paid to d..."Remember this one fact: Childs was paid to do so."<br /><br />Well of course. That's what makes it even worse. I may think it's stupid but i at least can respect someone who rejects anarchism out of conviction.<br /><br />"Read got in big trouble with his industrial supporters in openly denouncing the Korean War and never made that sort of mistake again. The golden rule inTonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-18945673166013680722014-03-14T14:59:28.304-04:002014-03-14T14:59:28.304-04:00The end does not justify means that contradict the...The end does not justify means that contradict the end.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03136499688626739994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-15381734031650977592014-03-14T14:34:11.912-04:002014-03-14T14:34:11.912-04:00I used to be a lefty soft-statist (I grew up in an...I used to be a lefty soft-statist (I grew up in and still live in Massachusetts) and used to be one of those people who poo-pooed libertarians/ small govt types. However I was converted after hearing Ron Paul and being exposed to his ideas. Just exposing people to these ideas is a great start and might get people thinking. Until Ron Paul's 1st campaign I didn't know anything about Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-78334707160623864262014-03-14T12:41:38.357-04:002014-03-14T12:41:38.357-04:00Remember this one fact: Childs was paid to do so....Remember this one fact: Childs was paid to do so. And Read, a prodigious fundraiser, may very well have found it to his interest to take the approach he did. Read got in big trouble with his industrial supporters in openly denouncing the Korean War and never made that sort of mistake again. The golden rule in action. It is sometimes the easy way out to be "above politics."Jule Herberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04010275785788333723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-68088217513350382802014-03-14T12:18:13.080-04:002014-03-14T12:18:13.080-04:00ExactlyExactlyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-17768921356064036402014-03-14T12:09:45.985-04:002014-03-14T12:09:45.985-04:00The kind of people that watch the Daily Show are t...The kind of people that watch the Daily Show are the kind of people that were no doubt amused by seeing some libertarian ganged up on and put in his place.<br /><br />You were exposed to RP, Rothbard and Woods. Were these three engaged by the likes of Jon Stewart in an obvious trap? Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-73712851277812271942014-03-14T12:06:43.909-04:002014-03-14T12:06:43.909-04:00I find it ironic you mention Roy Childs, since he ...I find it ironic you mention Roy Childs, since he ended up embracing politics and rejecting anarcho-capitalism.Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-45412911657659038872014-03-14T12:04:27.426-04:002014-03-14T12:04:27.426-04:00"There is a case to be made for the attainmen..."There is a case to be made for the attainment of power in order to decimate that same power."<br /><br />Nonsense. The only reason the Ron Paul campaign was positive is because of its educational value. A Ron Paul presidency would have been a 4 year stall of statist politics at best, and damaging to the libertarian cause at worst because of the various problems that would be ascribed Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-21362940668961076602014-03-14T11:32:06.007-04:002014-03-14T11:32:06.007-04:00Ron Paul didn't act like Frank Underwood.
Yes...Ron Paul didn't act like Frank Underwood.<br /><br />Yes, he was in office, but he certainly didn't play games in order to win more power or achieve political goals.<br /><br />As his opposition loves/loved to point out, he barely had any bills passed while in congress.<br /><br />The FEE article, however, is explicitly talking about playing the game in order to get laws put into statue. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-24200996967838108112014-03-14T11:09:56.608-04:002014-03-14T11:09:56.608-04:00In a larger context, it's always better to eng...In a larger context, it's always better to engage, no matter the method.<br />Take for example, the Judges appearance on the Daily Show:<br />Even the most dim-witted lefty would see that it was all stacked against him. One would hope that the inate American sympathy for the underdog would be aroused by that. Next, maybe some of the statements about Lincoln would sink in. Maybe questions Capn Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08133441332228302495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-82147361600427658502014-03-14T10:34:56.851-04:002014-03-14T10:34:56.851-04:00"You have to be the ultimate optimist to beli..."You have to be the ultimate optimist to believe that if we sit back and let them destroy our freedoms that we will somehow come out the other side for the better."<br /><br />I think what the Ron Paul campaign demonstrated is that there is no way to win ethically on a national scale, where the power gained would be enough to effect actual change. The choice IMO is try to "out lie Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-29835151238307577812014-03-14T10:00:24.736-04:002014-03-14T10:00:24.736-04:00Nothing new here: One of Roy Childs' favorite...Nothing new here: One of Roy Childs' favorite expressions was: "If the end does not justify the means, what does?" Leonard Read, on the other hand said something along the lines of: "The nature of the means determines the nature of the end." Rothbard took a middle of the road position on this apparent conflict and criticized both views as a deviation from the plumb Jule Herberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04010275785788333723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-1484766255636361482014-03-14T09:58:06.225-04:002014-03-14T09:58:06.225-04:00One does not defeat evil by sinning. Those who be...One does not defeat evil by sinning. Those who believe they can kill the devil with his own pitchfork are delusional.<br /><br />Evil is self-liquidating; it can never increase prosperity. The task of the good man is to simply keep breathing in and out longer than the bad guys, and withhold his fruits from those who would take them where possible. This strategy, consistently applied over time,dogehttp://teodesian.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-89704931283578703612014-03-14T09:55:09.002-04:002014-03-14T09:55:09.002-04:00Bob - Two things on this. The ad atop of your pag...Bob - Two things on this. The ad atop of your page is for Murray Sabrin for Senate in NJ. Knowing Murray the way I do, I can attest that he is seeking power to dismantle it. <br /><br />Secondly, I do not think there is anyone in the liberty movement that believes Ron Paul's legacy as a congressman nor his campaigns for president were anything but ultra positive for the cause.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07880627280937503395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-46015307828739386082014-03-14T09:38:52.378-04:002014-03-14T09:38:52.378-04:00Sounds like The Freeman has penned a pre-emptive a...Sounds like The Freeman has penned a pre-emptive apologia for a presumptive Rand Paul presidency. Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-56987262669865781842014-03-14T09:20:46.934-04:002014-03-14T09:20:46.934-04:00Regarding FEE and the House of Cards, Alice (from ...Regarding FEE and the House of Cards, Alice (from "Looking Glass" fame) offered her commentary:<br /><br />http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.com/2014/03/milquetoast-libertarians-in-wonderland.html bionic mosquitohttp://bionicmosquito.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.com