tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post4358168272503315284..comments2024-02-13T02:39:22.756-05:00Comments on EconomicPolicyJournal.com: A "Bullshit" Response from Jeffrey TuckerRobert Wenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-56307207868816279702017-04-23T21:39:26.557-04:002017-04-23T21:39:26.557-04:00"What gives me the right to tell him to leave..."What gives me the right to tell him to leave?"<br /><br />Property rights. The couch is a scarce good that you came to own via homesteading or, more likely, exchange. <br /><br />Being "the exclusive provider" of something has nothing to do with libertarian property theory. Nothing in that framework offers anything like a justification for being a monopoly provider of any Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06997517952762481046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-14419872499141453332015-06-01T18:15:07.636-04:002015-06-01T18:15:07.636-04:00This was a fun read. There are egos on both sides...This was a fun read. There are egos on both sides that have come bruises, and that's always a healthy thing. I am working on a kind of touchstone. There is a well hidden mechanism through which humans have been resolving conflicts for centuries. It comes from the records of decisions made by respected people to whom disputants have turned in the past. It's often referred to as "Dave Scotesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14913120983331583889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-15910996215830760932014-05-08T09:13:58.621-04:002014-05-08T09:13:58.621-04:00rereading this old thread. damn wenzel is an assh...rereading this old thread. damn wenzel is an asshole. still attacking tucker five years later because you are wrong on IP?<br /><br />911insidejobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-18838479698006644812013-10-09T21:18:12.824-04:002013-10-09T21:18:12.824-04:00Is it right if the children are breaking an agreem...Is it right if the children are breaking an agreement? Disregarding third parties that do not enter into such an agreement, are the people who sign IP contracts right in violating their contracts? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08903285982792836625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-2550229004644951852013-10-09T21:15:57.183-04:002013-10-09T21:15:57.183-04:00I do not understand that concept. If I agree not t...I do not understand that concept. If I agree not to share an idea, a piece of software, or any other IP, what gives me the right to share said IP with someone else? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08903285982792836625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-68877479447718817692013-08-16T04:55:35.260-04:002013-08-16T04:55:35.260-04:00Read the year on the "October 26" Anonym...Read the year on the "October 26" Anonymous post I was replying to, Einstein. 2012.<br /><br />But thanks for the laugh. I never seem to tire of the irony when someone writes the phrase "Your [sic] an idiot."John Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-9199648711666576872013-03-27T18:27:36.311-04:002013-03-27T18:27:36.311-04:00Robert is a troll and all you guys are fools to le...Robert is a troll and all you guys are fools to let yourself get trolled so hard.libertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17690194773852812560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-62079863518544388582013-03-27T16:30:22.257-04:002013-03-27T16:30:22.257-04:00Jeffrey Tucker,
You are probably my favorite thin...Jeffrey Tucker,<br /><br />You are probably my favorite thinker at the Mises Institute.<br /><br />I have so much respect for you and what you have done. You changed my opinion 180 degrees on Intellectual Property. <br /><br />I now agree with you that IP is an attack on property rights, since it binds 3rd parties that have agreed to nothing. <br /><br />Great job, and good work at MI, thank you lukashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06213882891977887603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-5856213335996200342013-02-20T02:10:16.577-05:002013-02-20T02:10:16.577-05:00Incidentally, Kinsella's mining the archives t...Incidentally, Kinsella's mining the archives to pull the typical Usenet trick of winning the argument by being the last poster in the thread. That's why you're suddenly seeing more action on these posts.DensityDuckhttp://nowhereinparticular.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-34072270398122339482013-02-20T02:04:56.158-05:002013-02-20T02:04:56.158-05:00"When a homeless guy plops down on your couch..."When a homeless guy plops down on your couch, you can no longer sit there."<br /><br />What gives me the right to tell him to leave? It's "my" couch? So what? What does that mean? And who says that's what it means?<br /><br />"When I download a song, it prevents no one from listening to or distributing the song."<br /><br />When you download a song, you DensityDuckhttp://nowhereinparticular.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-1174015201166910782013-01-30T14:14:42.811-05:002013-01-30T14:14:42.811-05:00Just publish it. Show him to be the "hypocrit...Just publish it. Show him to be the "hypocrite" you say he is.<br /><br />What's he gonna do? How much could it possibly cost you?<br /><br />But then again, your logical fallacies abound. Even if he sued you for it, participating in the current system doesn't prove anything. Kinsella summed it up perfectly:<br /><br />Paraphrasing: A single persons or even a million people'D. Lawless Hardwarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10416599643576620796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-77118725772992477662013-01-30T14:03:58.833-05:002013-01-30T14:03:58.833-05:00Bingo!
It is said to see so many logical fallacie...Bingo!<br /><br />It is said to see so many logical fallacies in one argument. Especially from someone with (somewhat) significant involvement in the freedom movement.<br /><br />You are hurting the integrity of your blog Wenzel. People can have different opinions, but logical fallacies are for mainstream dolts, not Austrians.D. Lawless Hardwarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10416599643576620796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-3297002378317914292013-01-30T13:59:55.889-05:002013-01-30T13:59:55.889-05:00Wenzel,
Seriously. I am losing respect for you wi...Wenzel,<br /><br />Seriously. I am losing respect for you with this debate. You use so many logical fallacies in your arguments here it's hard to parse them all out.<br /><br />I'm not even defending Tucker's position here. I'm just going to point out (it should be obvious) that when you point out that Tucker doesn't want or didn't grant you permission to publish the book,D. Lawless Hardwarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10416599643576620796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-1258356638230492872013-01-30T13:47:14.528-05:002013-01-30T13:47:14.528-05:00You consistently ignore the fact that intellectual...You consistently ignore the fact that intellectual "property" is infinite and that physical property is not.<br /><br />Everyone in the world can listen to the same song, read the same book, and know how to make a nuke at the same time. Everyone in the world can't sit on the same couch or live in the same house. When a homeless guy plops down on your couch, you can no longer sit D. Lawless Hardwarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10416599643576620796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-63818055849949553482013-01-23T14:38:09.371-05:002013-01-23T14:38:09.371-05:00Your an idiot. The creative commons clause rferenc...Your an idiot. The creative commons clause rferenced is from 2010. You can't use that for a 2009 post. In 2009, Mises Institute copyright protected much of their publications until Wenzel shamed Tucker into changing the policy.The Cleanernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-31884054834235018032013-01-23T14:12:32.460-05:002013-01-23T14:12:32.460-05:00ouch.ouch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-50871883012553866212013-01-23T14:06:34.980-05:002013-01-23T14:06:34.980-05:00dittodittoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-2181188827607175642013-01-23T14:04:59.272-05:002013-01-23T14:04:59.272-05:00i know the answer to number 1 is no.... where does...i know the answer to number 1 is no.... where does that lead us?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-56896083973766542152013-01-18T03:36:27.794-05:002013-01-18T03:36:27.794-05:00@ Anonymous October 26:
The copyright notice for ...@ Anonymous October 26:<br /><br />The copyright notice for Bourbon for Breakfast <a href="https://mises.org/document/5509/Bourbon-for-Breakfast" rel="nofollow">reads</a>:<br /><br /><i>© 2010 by the Ludwig von Mises Institute and published under the Creative Commons Attribution License 3.0.<br />http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/<br /><br />Ludwig von Mises Institute<br />518 West John Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-17532917555351909452012-10-26T00:36:51.425-04:002012-10-26T00:36:51.425-04:00Tucker, et. al…do you not consider the practical i...Tucker, et. al…do you not consider the practical implications, especially given modern technology's easy ability to copy? To deny intellectual property completely ignores human motivation. How few people have time or the will, or both, to regularly produce quality, intellectual products at no profit? Not many. And to deny them that profit is to retard progress in technology and the quality Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-56348634204821235682012-10-02T20:21:49.976-04:002012-10-02T20:21:49.976-04:00Rothbard is actually bad on fraud and breaking con...<i>Rothbard is actually bad on fraud and breaking contracts. It's not theft, it's not immoral.</i><br /><br />He also believed that any form of fractional reserve lending was outright fraud, IIRC. mike mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14825549659528271104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-80825786027796286842012-09-21T10:20:59.294-04:002012-09-21T10:20:59.294-04:00There is no such thing as bad language. Complaints...There is no such thing as bad language. Complaints against the language used by others is invalid and infringes upon their natural rights, namely the right to express ideas through words without barriers laid by others who would refuse to hear certain words. The languages around the world are quite vast, including the English language. Most are quite colorful, with some words holding more color Captain Praxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04123793035253468996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-43779404846688119342012-08-30T16:16:47.169-04:002012-08-30T16:16:47.169-04:00Look. You're clearly trolling Tucker. Trolling...Look. You're clearly trolling Tucker. Trolling is, by definition, bullshit. <br /><br />The only reason you think it's "rude" and "crude" is because he said a swear. If he had said "nonsense", you'd have no case. But like a 5 year old girl you choose to run around yelling:<br /><br />"Jeffrey said a naughty word!"<br /><br />I call bullshit.joeftanseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09398623775396527254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-59198397271643987252012-08-30T15:49:04.318-04:002012-08-30T15:49:04.318-04:00Rothbard is actually bad on fraud and breaking con...Rothbard is actually bad on fraud and breaking contracts. It's not theft, it's not immoral.<br /><br />Anyone who buys a book with the words copyright on it are in fact agreeing to treat the material inside with conditions. Fine. But breaking those conditions does not constitute a violation of the NAP. Breaking contracts is not categorically immoral nor is it "implicit theft." Mattheus von Guttenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09404889240800715511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-87336421707814138952012-08-30T15:45:37.593-04:002012-08-30T15:45:37.593-04:00Hulsmann doesn't think the ideas and thoughts ...Hulsmann doesn't think the ideas and thoughts about Mises (enmattered in Last Knight) are his own property. Neither does Tucker nor any anti-IP libertarian.<br /><br />The physical books of Last Knight belong to LVMI because they created, contracted, and voluntarily exchanged resources for those pages and ink. But the ideas inside - even the verbatim writing style - is not owned by anyone. Mattheus von Guttenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09404889240800715511noreply@blogger.com