tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post6505573857755742461..comments2024-02-13T02:39:22.756-05:00Comments on EconomicPolicyJournal.com: Intense: MSNBC's Alex Wagner vs. Ron Paul On Syria, Liberty, Anti-SemitismRobert Wenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-60184269891889058092013-09-06T21:28:46.073-04:002013-09-06T21:28:46.073-04:00The Fatima Center responds:
The historical consen...The Fatima Center responds:<br /><br /><i>The historical consensus is that Hitler alone killed 11 million people in the territories occupied by the Nazi regime, including six million Jews and three million Polish Catholics. <br /><br />The historical consensus is that, between them, the Lenin and Stalin regimes killed upwards of 40 million Christians.<br /><br />Neither the Fatima Center, nor itsBob Roddishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17263804608074597937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-57072224596926408652013-09-06T21:25:35.858-04:002013-09-06T21:25:35.858-04:00WAGNER: This station —
PAUL: — why can’t I go ther...WAGNER: This station —<br />PAUL: — why can’t I go there?<br />PAUL: Now you’re categorizing —<br />WAGNER: — and opposing Jewish nationalism and preaching about Satan’s plans against the church among which include the granting of full citizenship to the Jews. Is your appearance at an event like this not some kind of endorsement of —<br />PAUL: OK, what I would say is yes there are disagreements Bob Roddishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17263804608074597937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-76296267772233643882013-09-06T21:25:22.357-04:002013-09-06T21:25:22.357-04:00Partial transcript as follows:
WAGNER: Dr. Paul y...Partial transcript as follows:<br /><br />WAGNER: Dr. Paul you talk a lot about liberty, and broad coalitions. And I think one of the, you know, one of the most hopeful signs for the GOP is the broad coalition that you were able to put together in the last presidential race, young people, old people, middle aged people, which is really an outlier within the current state of the Republican Party. Bob Roddishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17263804608074597937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-1113523252285204152013-09-06T16:56:10.730-04:002013-09-06T16:56:10.730-04:00She asked him about a quote and Ron Paul's res...<i>She asked him about a quote and Ron Paul's response shows that he agrees with the quote.</i><br /><br />That is false. Ron Paul clearly stated that the theology of this group was irrelevant.<br /><br />1. What is so wrong about trying to convince conservative Christians of whatever denomination to adopt the non-aggression principle? Don’t “progressives” support the idea of conservative Bob Roddishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17263804608074597937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-31392204262626284422013-09-06T13:41:32.146-04:002013-09-06T13:41:32.146-04:00I guess she is unaware of the lies about Fast &...I guess she is unaware of the lies about Fast & Furious, the NSA, and Benghazi from this administration. oops. Not to mention Obama's lies about lobbyists, signing statements, etc. etc. Pope of Capitalismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01517472470003475056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-13750834310517953422013-09-06T13:39:33.209-04:002013-09-06T13:39:33.209-04:00Right, Jerry, Ron Paul the disciple of Mises and R...Right, Jerry, Ron Paul the disciple of Mises and Rothbard is a Jew-hater.<br /><br />Or maybe he recognizes that, unlike the Fed's money debasement, the Fatima Center's opinion about "Judeo-Freemasonry" is irrelevant to most people, including most Jews. And, unless the Fatima Center is calling for Jews to be killed, then it is not as bad as MSNBC, which is calling for Syrians toAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-8183059660528482882013-09-06T13:39:25.512-04:002013-09-06T13:39:25.512-04:00> "Judeo-Freemasonry" aims to extermi...> "Judeo-Freemasonry" aims to exterminate humanity<br /><br />Nonsense. It seeks to disarm us first. If that succeeds, then they'll exterminate us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-64810170564579216792013-09-06T13:09:04.682-04:002013-09-06T13:09:04.682-04:00It's funny that Ron Paul gets very upset when ...It's funny that Ron Paul gets very upset when a mainstream economist simply says the Fed should do more to reduce unemployment but when the Fatima Center argues that "Judeo-Freemasonry" aims to exterminate humanity his approach is "don't be so hard on them." <br /><br />Does Ron Paul disagree with the Fatima quote Wagner read? No, he does not. If he did, he would have Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-8563513480014692512013-09-06T13:01:45.500-04:002013-09-06T13:01:45.500-04:00Under the War Powers Act, Obama does need Congress...Under the War Powers Act, Obama does need Congressional authorization to launch a missile strike. The War Powers Act requires the President to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30 day withdrawal period, without an authorization of the use of military force or a declaration of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-2224075848494398732013-09-06T12:58:18.220-04:002013-09-06T12:58:18.220-04:00Those people do not disagree with Ron Paul. That&#...Those people do not disagree with Ron Paul. That's why they invited him to keynote the convention. They are completely familiar with his views, with the Austrian school, with his anti-intervention positions, everything. Ron Paul and Father Nicholas Gruner, head of the Fatima Center, have a bit of history together.<br /><br />If he disagrees with what they stand for, he should not keynote the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-44520642215590366802013-09-06T12:17:33.621-04:002013-09-06T12:17:33.621-04:00The Non-fringe Alex Wagner wants to get rid of the...The Non-fringe Alex Wagner wants to get rid of the 2nd Amendment.<br /><br />http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/06/msnbc_and_huffington_posts_wagner_get_rid_of_second_amendment.htmlBob Roddishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17263804608074597937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-10700879857096733712013-09-06T11:53:27.104-04:002013-09-06T11:53:27.104-04:00She reacts like Obama is her daddy or something. B...She reacts like Obama is her daddy or something. But then, this is MSNBC. Ron was great as usual.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-1694291458535931062013-09-06T10:49:06.026-04:002013-09-06T10:49:06.026-04:00This particular women really annoys me....this is ...This particular women really annoys me....this is the 2nd time I've seen her with Ron Paul. <br /><br />He is such a damn bulldog and gentleman with her...but it still makes me uncomfortable in watching the whole affair. <br /><br />The coordination involved between her and the MSNBC production staff in attempts to assassinate his character is immense.<br /><br />"Father of the Fringe&Nick Badalamentihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015961786370759940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-70292986087518701272013-09-06T10:02:37.390-04:002013-09-06T10:02:37.390-04:00No agenda by Ms. Wagner in this interview. Plays ...No agenda by Ms. Wagner in this interview. Plays it right down the middle, she does.bionic mosquitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12002548958078731031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-72642069532611431292013-09-06T09:51:01.962-04:002013-09-06T09:51:01.962-04:00thats a good thingthats a good thingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-72500746506223413502013-09-06T09:24:33.684-04:002013-09-06T09:24:33.684-04:00Totally agree Lysander. I would only add to your ...Totally agree Lysander. I would only add to your comment:<br /><br />"Alex - How do you expect to change the minds of people who you believe have abhorrent views if you do not engage them and try to educate them?"<br /><br />On another quasi related matter, I always thought Ron missed opportunities during GOP primary debates to pound on this message:<br /><br />"I am the only Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07880627280937503395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-3490586007986685462013-09-06T09:08:58.964-04:002013-09-06T09:08:58.964-04:00Doesn't sound like Rand & Ron are close at...Doesn't sound like Rand & Ron are close at all.ghst.mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03483524284655622522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-83886283310165939212013-09-06T09:05:00.636-04:002013-09-06T09:05:00.636-04:00I find it soooo difficult to watch this stuff any...I find it soooo difficult to watch this stuff anymore.<br /><br />Regarding Syria and congress:<br /><br />"You have to admit [Congress] wouldn't have had a chance to make their voices heard had they not been given the opportunity by President Obama. Which is to say, if he had not gone to congress with this, they wouldn't have had a chance to vote!"<br /><br />Then she goes on Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-46962482042367507182013-09-06T08:25:23.222-04:002013-09-06T08:25:23.222-04:00I love Ron Paul but he should simply say: "I&...I love Ron Paul but he should simply say: "I'm going there to spread my views on liberty, peace and economic prosperity and not to endorse anyone else's views. And the people I want most to hear my views are the ones that disagree with them most."Lysandernoreply@blogger.com