tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post6739061082372068968..comments2024-02-13T02:39:22.756-05:00Comments on EconomicPolicyJournal.com: The Vicious Attacks on Murray RothbardRobert Wenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-47109466021118377412012-08-02T04:06:16.510-04:002012-08-02T04:06:16.510-04:00sometimes it seems to me he is ONLY an icon, a bad...sometimes it seems to me he is ONLY an icon, a badge someone like to wear, valued as such not for its original contributions which, to me, are lacking.<br /><br />I am not against Rothbard. I am against the cult of anything, Rothbard included, especially if reasons are mistaken. You need a "symbol"? Ok, take it, but don't say that symbol is more than it is.<br /><br />I am so tired Leonardo IHCqhttp://www.ideashaveconsequences.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-34014640654134296652012-08-01T11:43:31.275-04:002012-08-01T11:43:31.275-04:00I am not a Friedmanite. I don't believe in cen...I am not a Friedmanite. I don't believe in central banks, 3% inflation, or school vouchers. I think schooling should be private.<br /><br />I'm not a Randian. I liked her writing, but think she was wrong on foreign policy.<br /><br />I agree with Rothbard on many things, even, theoretically, with pure anarchism.<br /><br />I think his moral theory is bad, though.<br />And his allegiances Lila Rajivahttp://www.mindbodypolitic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-4584184078340321172012-08-01T11:13:23.942-04:002012-08-01T11:13:23.942-04:00He's just an icon. you're not THAT stupid ...He's just an icon. you're not THAT stupid are you?Mikehttp://www.antiwar.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-51271333234600781492012-08-01T11:10:59.465-04:002012-08-01T11:10:59.465-04:00Yes. Unfortunately, government is still viewed as ...Yes. Unfortunately, government is still viewed as God. This kind of thinking is so outdated. But then, there are still fools who believe in price controls and protectionist tariffs. It's amazing what thousands of years of brainwashing does to people's minds isn't it?Mikehttp://www.antiwar.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-53562608920000448502012-08-01T06:33:59.286-04:002012-08-01T06:33:59.286-04:00Rothbard is an icon, not an economist. Post and co...Rothbard is an icon, not an economist. Post and comments here prove it. AE can live without Rothbard and the Rothbardian way to underrate everything which is simply not 100% anarchic or 100% against banks (regardless of their entrepreneurial content).<br /><br />One thing Rothbard has taught: go on with block quoting and comment selected quotes regardless of the context. Not a great improvement Leonardo IHChttp://www.ideashaveconsequences.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-86824168828426605282012-08-01T06:12:07.412-04:002012-08-01T06:12:07.412-04:00I like Rothbard and the way he writes, but setting...I like Rothbard and the way he writes, but setting aside for a while Friedman, to what is related his "greatness" as economist? I mean his original contributions. <br /><br />Could you imagine Austrian Economics without Menger (one of the fathers of marginalism)? Clearly not. Or whithout Mises and Hayek? Clearly not. Kirzner wrote very much on entreprenurschip, as Lachmann did on Silvanonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-78751615649167265322011-08-04T02:25:16.051-04:002011-08-04T02:25:16.051-04:00Anonymous at 11:10am sounds like Selgin posting de...Anonymous at 11:10am sounds like Selgin posting defending himself under another name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-63164190624582496292011-08-03T09:42:13.930-04:002011-08-03T09:42:13.930-04:00"I had my suspicions awhile back when Boudrea..."I had my suspicions awhile back when Boudreaux shamelessly failed to acknowledge my contribution to his intellectual development . . ."<br /><br />This might be the most delusional comment I've ever read on any blog, ever. Wow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-78803096888217236172011-08-02T11:10:05.558-04:002011-08-02T11:10:05.558-04:00None of your "defenses" of Rothbard incl...None of your "defenses" of Rothbard include any of his economic claims. That is probably because he is a mediocre economist who made no major discoveries or insights.<br /><br />You criticize Friedman's mistakes. Fair enough. But to demonstrate that Rothbard was a better economist you have to list his discoveries and insights so we can do a quick comparison. But that would Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-74800389689360909342011-08-02T10:34:56.105-04:002011-08-02T10:34:56.105-04:00Why ask why?
The proof is in the proverbial puddi...Why ask why?<br /><br />The proof is in the proverbial pudding. So, eat the pudding, critique it and be clear on who made it.<br /><br />Failure to empirically verify outcomes is the basis of the poor state of economics generally at the present time. Everyone wants to measure the minutiae to validate their pet theory, or to satisfy the autocratic demands of their professor or his ghost.<br /><Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-57992069257916186242011-08-02T04:14:47.021-04:002011-08-02T04:14:47.021-04:00Selgin could have made those disagreements without...Selgin could have made those disagreements without all of the outlandish attacks on Rothbard fans as being cultish. The same criteria of being "cultish" could apply to just about all of the major economists anyway. There was zero reason for him to make personal attacks, which is why he has drawn a great deal of criticism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-68516795379881352092011-08-02T01:01:26.798-04:002011-08-02T01:01:26.798-04:00It is clear - you must kneel before Rothbard the G...It is clear - you must kneel before Rothbard the Great and kiss his feet before you are considered a true libertarian. <br /><br />A little shocking that fellow libertarians are becoming divided over which heroes to worship...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-80270341712159138122011-08-01T23:34:48.433-04:002011-08-01T23:34:48.433-04:00Dale @ 1:39: "derived from real life observat...Dale @ 1:39: "derived from real life observations"??? HERETIC!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-45233419134994496332011-08-01T20:16:40.511-04:002011-08-01T20:16:40.511-04:00It's true that neither Selgin nor Boudreaux ha...It's true that neither Selgin nor Boudreaux has written a major "treatise" but both have published books and many great articles. Selgin has written one of the seminal books on Free Banking. Their libertarian/free market creds are solid. Selgin disagrees with Rothbard & Co. on 100% reserve banking and other monetary issue. I think he has the better argument. Selgin also Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-39133785816344860492011-08-01T12:15:33.203-04:002011-08-01T12:15:33.203-04:00Looking back, it seems that every time I wanted to...Looking back, it seems that every time I wanted to learn something about Austrian economics and the free market, I ended up with a Rothbard book.Bill Hayneshttp://www.cmi-gold-silver.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-73649489515648523982011-08-01T10:49:26.714-04:002011-08-01T10:49:26.714-04:00I have great respect for Selgin, Boudreaux and Fri...I have great respect for Selgin, Boudreaux and Friedman, but as for the two former, I don't understand their attacks on Rothbard. Nor do I see any evidence to support them. I liked Milton like I like Ron Paul, but to say he was a better economist, better monetary economist even, than Rothbard is just silly.<br /><br />As for treaties. Doesn't Friedman's "Capitalism and Freedom&Kajhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12556740918943104168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-23743071060264839562011-08-01T10:13:34.810-04:002011-08-01T10:13:34.810-04:00Can you picture Bernanke or any Fed chairman apolo...Can you picture Bernanke or any Fed chairman apologizing to Rothbard (to his memory) for inflating at the start of a depression? Or inflating to create the bubble? Or for creating the Fed in the first place? Of course not. No matter how bad things get, they would be worse if the Fed hadn't been born, or hadn't inflated. Never mind that economic history is at odds with this positionGeorgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16908823468747218192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-52805755568573339032011-08-01T09:13:51.733-04:002011-08-01T09:13:51.733-04:00It's unfortunate that Boudreaux has little reg...It's unfortunate that Boudreaux has little regard for Rothbard. I read his blog and there's very little criticism (none I've seen) of any of the personalities of economics save for Keyenes.<br /><br />Nearly every post is anti-regulation and pro individual actor so I'm surprised he holds more praise for Friedman.<br /><br />Boudreaux, at least to me, seems very good on breaking Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-55829019530905650812011-08-01T02:28:56.489-04:002011-08-01T02:28:56.489-04:00Hmm. conspiracy theory about 9-11, secessionist ar...<i>Hmm. conspiracy theory about 9-11, secessionist arguments, revisionist history, and bankster criticism. Could EPJ and LRC be next on Holder's list? </i><br /><br />The arrogance of that fool. As a public employee, Holder doesn't have the right to an opinion about the opinions of a free citizen. He should be in Leavenworth for dereliction of duty in failure to uphold the Constitution, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-39153266987166052942011-08-01T01:39:30.149-04:002011-08-01T01:39:30.149-04:00Zach-
The reason for the lack of a treatise is be...Zach-<br /><br />The reason for the lack of a treatise is because they knew that they couldn't sustain their economic delusions in long-form since parts of chapters 1, 2 and 3 would be directly contradicted by parts of chapters 4, 7 and 9, which would be contradicted by chapters 5, 8 and 10. When you don't have a coherent, universally applicable set of primary arguments, derived from realAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-27278488798976276682011-08-01T01:09:26.721-04:002011-08-01T01:09:26.721-04:0030 years ago, when I discovered Mises and the Aust...30 years ago, when I discovered Mises and the Austrian School, I easily walked away from Friedman and the Chicago School and NEVER looked back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-14866414253278225802011-07-31T23:54:57.117-04:002011-07-31T23:54:57.117-04:00Rather funny that Selgin, Friedman, or Beadreaux h...Rather funny that Selgin, Friedman, or Beadreaux have never, to the best of my knowledge, written a complete economic treatise.Zach Bushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11782987091862301229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-1371347454221299232011-07-30T23:12:11.988-04:002011-07-30T23:12:11.988-04:00Off-topic but related.
DOJ probing Louis Farrkhan&...Off-topic but related.<br />DOJ probing Louis Farrkhan's "hate speech" to prisoners. <br />What's hate speech?<br />Saying stuff like Cheney did 9-11, asking folowers to pick Nation of Islam flag over the US flag, suggesting that the Bible had been altered by white men, and that there was international conspiracy of bankers.<br /><br />Hmm. conspiracy theory about 9-11, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-65131230763249664292011-07-30T16:23:33.488-04:002011-07-30T16:23:33.488-04:00John Maynard Keynes and Benjamin Strong. Friedman ...John Maynard Keynes and Benjamin Strong. Friedman believed Keynes was a great economist and Strong could have prevented the Depression if he had lived. Very wimpy assessments. On the other hand, Murray Rothbard just rips these guys apart. Another reason why the Austrian School has more vitamins and minerals than the leading brand.<br /><br />http://mises.org/daily/3845<br /><br />http://mises.orgMelvin Megawitznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-62310018160039809632011-07-30T14:12:48.303-04:002011-07-30T14:12:48.303-04:00When you worship at the feet of your heroes instea...When you worship at the feet of your heroes instead of standing on their shoulders to look into the distance, you have ceased to be a student.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com