tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post7165083689134738936..comments2024-02-13T02:39:22.756-05:00Comments on EconomicPolicyJournal.com: Countdown to the Wenzel-Kinsella Debate: 2 DaysRobert Wenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-49670027361504283712013-03-31T08:02:48.422-04:002013-03-31T08:02:48.422-04:00satch12879, you are reading Wenzel's post the ...satch12879, you are reading Wenzel's post the way you want to read it. It is not a straw man to criticize Tucker's views.<br /><br />"Although some Kinsella supporters in the comments to my posts seem to think that I am bluffing when I say that I will bring up errors made by Jeff Tucker, I am not.<br /><br />I have example after example of errors made by Tucker. He really has no Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-73269208127815600702013-03-30T23:59:17.563-04:002013-03-30T23:59:17.563-04:00@Unknown (2:09pm).
Thanks for the response and th...@Unknown (2:09pm).<br /><br />Thanks for the response and the questions.<br /><br />"Do you believe your brain is a scarce resource?" <br /><br />Absolutely, my brain as well as the rest of my faculties are scarce resources controlled by me. We have property rights in our physical selves in this world just like we would in the garden of eden. This actually dovetails well with Hoppe&#Andy Kathermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06071902930370503984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-8790737404561527492013-03-30T23:42:18.944-04:002013-03-30T23:42:18.944-04:00You already endorse a government-granted monopoly ...You already endorse a government-granted monopoly on property. I suspect you believe that you should have an exclusive right to your home, your car and your body.<br /><br />So you likely agree in principle with the exclusive right to property to be protected by some enforcement entity. Now let's add IP to the list so that the producers of IP can receive just compensation for the value they Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-50465077633967215282013-03-30T20:36:46.639-04:002013-03-30T20:36:46.639-04:00My question is why anyone would want to defend a g...My question is why anyone would want to defend a government-granted "property right" (thus, the right to monopolize, as property means you can exercise full control over) to an idea.<br /><br />If I make a new television and I start hawking it at Best Buy and Wal-Mart. Wouldn't it be fully rational to expect, and consistent with classical liberal societal norms, that other people Brenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02195661434955034038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-57667827071691309962013-03-30T18:44:05.712-04:002013-03-30T18:44:05.712-04:00I hope that RW calling the Austro-anarchist libert...I hope that RW calling the Austro-anarchist libertarian framework Kinsella uses "absurd" and the anti-IP view "nutty" is for PR purposes only.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18191261587404343144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-79502313799613838692013-03-30T18:16:09.453-04:002013-03-30T18:16:09.453-04:00Jeffrey Tucker has nothing to do with this debate....Jeffrey Tucker has nothing to do with this debate. It would be amateurish to even mention his name.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18191261587404343144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-19732921738077699062013-03-30T16:35:31.085-04:002013-03-30T16:35:31.085-04:00This has already been addressed but I'll chime...This has already been addressed but I'll chime in: the fact that you plan to discuss Tucker at all is a very bad sign. You're debating Stephan Kinsella, not Jeffery Tucker. What possible reason would Kinsella have to want to defend Tucker, or anyone else for that matter? Heck, even if I disagreed with Kinsella and "agreed" with Wenzel (not sure how I could because other than a Brian Drakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11580071188221786247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-7906511128187010182013-03-30T14:09:01.757-04:002013-03-30T14:09:01.757-04:00Andy. Do you believe your brain is a scarce resou...Andy. Do you believe your brain is a scarce resource? Can any other software developer just be plopped into your place, and no difference can be discerned? For that matter, can any illiterate high school dropout take your position without anyone noticing? Do you pay other software developers $120K/yr and then put the software they develop into public domain?<br /><br />I think Wenzel is rightPandemichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315340208949970292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-83776072090752683962013-03-30T13:14:53.915-04:002013-03-30T13:14:53.915-04:00I agree with you Dave. Tucker has definitely draw...I agree with you Dave. Tucker has definitely drawn a lot of attention to the debate on IP (patent, copyright, trademark) in his recent works (Bourbon for Breakfast and A Beautiful Anarchy). But, unless Bob addresses the biggest elephant in the living room is which property and the essence of scarcity (tangible goods which can be clearly demarcated by exclusive control and possession) and Andy Kathermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06071902930370503984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-75522340084492975732013-03-30T13:13:58.604-04:002013-03-30T13:13:58.604-04:00Yes, Joe, I know what a straw man is and "sat...Yes, Joe, I know what a straw man is and "satch" summed it up very nicely. Tenbobnotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10134620475840340160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-4437520661763394032013-03-30T13:11:02.196-04:002013-03-30T13:11:02.196-04:00Again, the question I've posed a few times on ...Again, the question I've posed a few times on these posts remains.<br /><br />Do you also disagree with Hoppe and the nexus of property, scarcity, and conflict? Is he in the "nut" camp as well?Andy Kathermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06071902930370503984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-17850821115577540472013-03-30T12:48:42.273-04:002013-03-30T12:48:42.273-04:00I am not forgetting Kinsella. I will smash them bo...I am not forgetting Kinsella. I will smash them both. The libertarian movement needs to be exorcised of this nutty anti-IP view completely, whether it is promoted by Tucker or Kinsella.<br /><br />Tucker will be easy to take care of, because he really has no clue. I will use Kinsella to destroy Tucker.<br /><br />Robert Wenzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-70779236228931943212013-03-30T12:20:30.118-04:002013-03-30T12:20:30.118-04:00Do you know what a straw man is? In case you don&#...Do <i>you</i> know what a straw man is? In case you don't, it's a logical fallacy used in rhetoric by which one party creates a superficially-related and obviously ridiculously scenario or position, attributes it to their opponent, disproves it easily, and thus declares that the entirety of their opponent's position is wrong.j<br /><br />Wenzel is planning on attacking Tucker, castingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-10001418519039013172013-03-30T11:39:06.099-04:002013-03-30T11:39:06.099-04:00I am glad you are doing this, Bob. My money is on...I am glad you are doing this, Bob. My money is on you because you are on the right side. I am on the edge of my seat in anticipation.Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07011856643664793898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-75677489821849000082013-03-30T11:38:25.373-04:002013-03-30T11:38:25.373-04:00I don't agree with the premise that Kinsella&#...I don't agree with the premise that Kinsella's views have gained their currency owing to Tucker. They were already being widely discussed and adopted long before Tucker took them up. <br /><br />In any case, you're debating Kinsella, not Tucker, so it seems to me you ought to focus on pointing out the weaknesses in Kinsella's case, not shifting the subject to what Tucker has said Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17155858114246195360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-65404203345503756972013-03-30T11:05:26.074-04:002013-03-30T11:05:26.074-04:00By absurd framework, are you referring to Hoppe...By absurd framework, are you referring to Hoppe's work on property as discussed in A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism?Andy Kathermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06071902930370503984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-84679560934129627162013-03-30T10:57:36.601-04:002013-03-30T10:57:36.601-04:00How is pointing out errors, that Tucker has made a...How is pointing out errors, that Tucker has made about IP, creating a straw man? Do you even know what a straw man is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-80696451356471757762013-03-30T10:32:26.786-04:002013-03-30T10:32:26.786-04:00Who says you are bluffing about Tucker? The real q...Who says you are bluffing about Tucker? The real question is, why is he even involved? It seems like you are making Jeffrey Tucker into a straw man.Tenbobnotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10134620475840340160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-85315228931222564212013-03-30T10:00:35.724-04:002013-03-30T10:00:35.724-04:00This is going to be an interesting debate, to say ...This is going to be an interesting debate, to say the least. I didn't think to question IP or look into it further until I started reading this site regularly. Joe A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01829844489009564295noreply@blogger.com