tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post7745921201025803221..comments2024-02-13T02:39:22.756-05:00Comments on EconomicPolicyJournal.com: Justin Amash Doubles Down on His Call to Keep Taxes on the TableRobert Wenzelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14296920597416905488noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-6772172840488955242012-12-30T01:21:04.077-05:002012-12-30T01:21:04.077-05:00Ol' Justine says: "The number one problem...Ol' Justine says: "The number one problem is debt." <br /><br />Of course the debt is a problem, but it's not the core problem: spending is, and the deficit is a consequence of it. Raising taxes will not fix the core problem. <br /><br />It's like price inflation. It's a problem for sure, but it's a consequence from inflating the money supply. Price inflation can Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-21600431775885275342012-12-29T14:31:05.884-05:002012-12-29T14:31:05.884-05:00Here's another hypothetical:
#1 We want a wel...Here's another hypothetical:<br /><br />#1 We want a welfare state that takes care of everybody... We will also cut taxes.<br />#2 We want a welfare state but need to raise taxes for it.<br /><br />Why haven't governments gone for lower taxes leading to big safe welfare states? This is effing brilliant... What sound logic. And nobody gets it, not even Obama.<br /><br />***<br /><br />Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-77344948543923604512012-12-29T13:46:51.171-05:002012-12-29T13:46:51.171-05:00Look, government spending and regulations = coerci...Look, government spending and regulations = coercive control of resources = current + future + implicit taxation. Obamacare's individual mandate is a huge tax and spending program even though it doesn't show up on the budget's (im)balance sheet. The starve-the-beast theory has been persuasively debunked on both logical and empirical grounds by the late William Niskanen and Michael JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-61872013100940598602012-12-29T12:58:46.415-05:002012-12-29T12:58:46.415-05:00Heres a hypothetical
#1: we need to invade Iraq......Heres a hypothetical<br />#1: we need to invade Iraq...we will also cut taxes, do we have your support?<br />#2: we need to invade Iraq...we will need to raise taxes to pay for it, do we have your support?<br />Which scenario gets more support?<br /><br />There's an example of lower taxes leading to bigger government. <br /><br />You guys need to accept that we are greatly outnumbered and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-49729515960190331832012-12-29T09:14:13.657-05:002012-12-29T09:14:13.657-05:00Great John Adams quote. We aren't "theori...Great John Adams quote. We aren't "theorizing" for the fuck of it- we are doing it to show smart people that "pretty libertarian" will still lead to bullshit like you. <br /><br />Go big, go hard, or go the fuck home. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-74256031440769220412012-12-29T08:07:36.701-05:002012-12-29T08:07:36.701-05:00#3 Gee. I wonder what will happen if Katt Williams...#3 Gee. I wonder what will happen if Katt Williams decides to flip the IRS the bird?<br /><br />"IRS Places $4 Million Tax Lien Against Comedian Katt Williams"<br /><br />http://reason.com/24-7/2012/12/28/irs-places-4-million-tax-lien-against-co<br /><br />But what do you care? It's not like YOU are Katt Williams, right? Nope. People with guns coming to collect is not an argument Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-81785914230441542242012-12-29T06:22:04.339-05:002012-12-29T06:22:04.339-05:00@ I'm Pretty Libertarian-
"If ye love we...@ I'm Pretty Libertarian-<br /><br />"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom—go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!" john adamsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-10564142711439339582012-12-29T05:54:28.690-05:002012-12-29T05:54:28.690-05:00"#1 - Low taxes and high spending is "fr..."#1 - Low taxes and high spending is "free" government. Free government is bigger government, so if you want smaller government, tax the hell out of everyone, don't give it away for free."<br /><br />Got any more stupid, anti-logical arguments?<br /><br /><br />"#2 - I'm pretty libertarian and I would rather see taxes go up than spending stay the same."<br />Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-89910910778783395372012-12-29T05:27:43.032-05:002012-12-29T05:27:43.032-05:00"Tired of complainers and haters and theorist..."Tired of complainers and haters and theorists."<br /><br />Then leave.Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-2706262714462069732012-12-29T02:14:31.022-05:002012-12-29T02:14:31.022-05:00Yah, I like HL Mencken too. But can't liberta...Yah, I like HL Mencken too. But can't libertarians like Wenzel and other commenters come up with better strategies and tactics than sitting all day theorizing about ideal society. By the time we are done debating we'll all be dead. So instead of complaining, think about doing something positive and turn it into action. Do it. Do it now. Tired of complainers and haters and theorists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-32370487002927981232012-12-29T00:51:21.966-05:002012-12-29T00:51:21.966-05:00You're comment proves the truth of this HL Men...You're comment proves the truth of this HL Mencken quote, "No one in this world, so far as I know, and I have searched the records, and emplyed agents to help me, has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people."<br />cotterdan321https://www.blogger.com/profile/06737986508570854479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-31864072004156874752012-12-28T21:12:43.607-05:002012-12-28T21:12:43.607-05:00And there was an article in politico with the open...And there was an article in politico with the opening line, "GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. — As Rep. Ron Paul prepares to leave Congress after 2012, there is a man waiting in the wings to carry on his constitutional crusade: Michigan freshman Rep. Justin Amash."<br /><br />HA HA HA HA HA HA HA....yeah, right<br /><br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-90438887329563218082012-12-28T20:59:36.142-05:002012-12-28T20:59:36.142-05:00If you advocate coercive taxation you are a thief....If you advocate coercive taxation you are a thief. A is A. A good man does not advocate coercive taxation. A is A.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-3971202543417923282012-12-28T20:34:12.657-05:002012-12-28T20:34:12.657-05:00#1 - Low taxes and high spending is "free&quo...#1 - Low taxes and high spending is "free" government. Free government is bigger government, so if you want smaller government, tax the hell out of everyone, don't give it away for free.<br />#2 - I'm pretty libertarian and I would rather see taxes go up than spending stay the same. <br />#3 - Give me a break on the guys with guns show up at your door...half the people I know Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-2108228765899224962012-12-28T20:12:20.188-05:002012-12-28T20:12:20.188-05:00Let's hope this kind of heat on him will make ...Let's hope this kind of heat on him will make him reconsider, and change his views. <br /><br />He may not be perfect, but I'll bet he can be persuaded to becoming a Rothbardian. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-10753508203877036312012-12-28T19:13:04.855-05:002012-12-28T19:13:04.855-05:00What i don't get it this: why should anyone ev...What i don't get it this: why should anyone even give a good &#*@$ if entitlements are "reformed", if they have to pay more taxes for the privilege?<br /><br />One hand puts 10 dollars in your left pocket, while the other hand takes 20 dollars out of your right pocket. And this is supposed to be progress because it keeps the thief from going broke.Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-13044456226155449172012-12-28T18:57:05.471-05:002012-12-28T18:57:05.471-05:00Turn coat asshole...love it. I agree. This doucheb...Turn coat asshole...love it. I agree. This douchebag doesn't realize that the debt can never be paid off. It's time to cut our losses, eliminate all federal taxes (to start), and introduce competing free-market money. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-72467236811691380222012-12-28T18:29:12.685-05:002012-12-28T18:29:12.685-05:00Amash is trying to do a 'deal' to get enti...Amash is trying to do a 'deal' to get entitlements on the table rather than be an ineffectual No vote. I don't like the strategy but it might work in getting some Dumbocrats to concede that entitlements need reform. Bentivolio does indeed sound good and Michigan is leading the way with these 2 GOP congressman but make no mistake, the State GOP hates them and will try and get them Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-58980648288079212412012-12-28T17:16:08.616-05:002012-12-28T17:16:08.616-05:00Debt: Caused by spend happy government parasites.
...Debt: Caused by spend happy government parasites.<br />Taxes: Money stolen by government parasites from productive people.<br /><br />Potential solution Justin Amash: Rob more money from peaceful, productive people in order to solve problems created by government parasites.<br /><br />And this is why Justin Amash is not anything close to being libertarian. Because he simply does not get the Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-13213900741652188622012-12-28T17:12:24.066-05:002012-12-28T17:12:24.066-05:00Let me get it straight... a good man who is willin...Let me get it straight... a good man who is willing to sic robbers in uniform on me and my friends to get even more loot to feed the parasites? I think he's just another turncoat asshole.averrosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-30003442088867404012012-12-28T17:07:11.015-05:002012-12-28T17:07:11.015-05:00If he was a "good man" he wouldn't b...If he was a "good man" he wouldn't be compromising on taxes. The problem is TOO MUCH government. That is the ONLY thing that should be on the table. Otherwise he can go piss up a rope.Mikehttp://antiwar.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-47839648282307276422012-12-28T17:03:51.597-05:002012-12-28T17:03:51.597-05:00Nobody that is open to robbing more of the people&...Nobody that is open to robbing more of the people's money than government is already doing is a good man.Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-59786629970996714842012-12-28T15:55:57.875-05:002012-12-28T15:55:57.875-05:00If he means entirely phasing out all entitlement p...If he means entirely phasing out all entitlement programs, then sure. Otherwise I'll have to disagree. He's still a good man, though.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16370155684873053399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-67007420406295357922012-12-28T15:39:44.719-05:002012-12-28T15:39:44.719-05:00What a sad thing to watch.
I heard somewhere that...What a sad thing to watch.<br /><br />I heard somewhere that Amash has a picture of Rothbard in his office....I think he needs to stare at that picture a little harder.Chris Rossinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02986002946096496906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3758330678390419129.post-77015901263985437532012-12-28T15:37:01.641-05:002012-12-28T15:37:01.641-05:00"The number one problem is debt."
No it..."The number one problem is debt."<br /><br />No it's not. It's government, you twat. Gusnoreply@blogger.com