He had me at "the dumbest, most technocratic speeches I've ever heard".
Amazing. I wonder, how long before he's bumped off by the establishment?
I don't think Farage is sincere. He is sitting in the same room, doing the same job as those he criticizes, albeit with a much snappier outfit and a bottle of wupass. But don't get me wrong... I think these cockeyed utopian technocrats deserve to be called out for their naiveté and all around bumbling. It's just that the whole thing smells of a set-up and the Farrage's insinuation that the "Germans" are behind it all seems like he is trying to pander to the crowd.
A German dominated Europe wasn't foreseen? Hate to break it to you, but a few World Wars were fought trying to "prevent" this very problem (at least that's the claim). Didn't work though...did they? LOL
Nigel does it again. I have been paying some attention to Farage for the past couple of years and he is always the only one to speak up about such things. I don't know what his politics are like, or what economic system he favors, but I do like that he is always critical of the EZ.
Here is another angle to consider. Farage and the Brits are pro Turkey acceptance to the EU. On the other hand, Rumpoi, the current elite and the Germans are very much set against it. I think this is one for the underling fight going on too.Disclaimer:I am against Turkey joining the EU.
Yup, I too have been watching a lot of Nigel's speeches, and I must say that he seems to be the only one with the common sense that God gave anyone to speak up about the problems that creating a EUROZONE caused. He always has a clear and concise and articulate rebuttal for any of those who would challenge his contention that there should have never been created the Eurozone that now is, and that it will fall apart and collapse...
Joseph Fetz -I'm British. In a nutshell, Farage is a conservative who has become more libertarian over time. I can't think of an equivalent in Washington, though in crude terms he'd be closer to Ron Paul than the GOP mainstream.
and your point is!?
At least 85% of the terrorists in that room need to be eliminated and Nigel knows it.
Like that one compilation of him on youtube says "NIGEL FARAGE HAS CANNONBALLS OF STEEL"Let him be an inspiration to us all!
Ever since Farage started to get some attention the cynics have come out in full force falsely associating him with the Euro-elites because "he sits in the same room and 'does the same job'", well he sits in the same room but he does not do the same job. Who wouldn't agree the Euro-creeps he criticizes wouldn't rather not have to put up with his constant, passionate, pointed criticisms he levies at them. Farage is a true defender of liberty, a lone-voice in a lions den and a few cynics can't deal with that more plausible reality. Get over it! Not everyone is a boogie man. Europarl youtube page has tons of footage going back many years showing Farage consistently promoting the same message of freedom and calling out the snakes. To claim he's one of them is as bad as claiming Ron Paul is part of the establishment. Not everyone has to be a boogie man. Grow up!
Younger Cato ... you are absolutely correct !
To Pete Moore's point - Farage has become much more libertarian over the last 2 years. His party, UKIP, is the natural hideout for dissatisfied, traditional conservatives. He has always said that he would rejoin the conservative party if they reverted to traditional values and policies. We are now seeing a movement to UKIP by supporters of all parties who realise that UKIP is the only party in the UK arguing to keep democracy instead of giving it away.
Wow! OMG!! Farage for Prime Minister!
About time someone stood up to these Euro Nazi's!
@ Joseph FetzOn Wikipedia:"The United Kingdom Independence Part is a political party in the United Kingdom which adheres to an ideology that has been identified as being eurosceptic, and conservative. The party also contains some economic elements of classical liberalism and libertarianism, such as supporting free trade and a flat tax rate."The closest comparison of Farage's UKIP with something American is probably the Tea Party (before it was co-opted by neocons).They are less libertarian than Ron Paul, but certainly more libertarian than neocons and liberals. Maybe he's something akin to a loudmouth version of Rand Paul.
His lack of understanding towards other people that dont drink tea at five provokes on him a terrible constipation. I could see it in his face
Fabulous! Thanks for posting.
All politicians end up pandering to the public or trying to play up public opinion be they right or wrong because that is the most surefire way to becoming elected to power. Simply put, it's a popularity contest. The problem is, the mass populous tend to make their choices for their representative based upon promises of a better life and believe that such dependance and belief will give them those rewards. Simply put, the public place their greater destiny in the hands of this elected leader, instead of in their own. However, that is not what's at debate here, it's Farage's point of view regarding the matter of the European Council and the Euro.Farage is right to question the morality/validity/efficacy of a PERMANENT PRESIDENT of the European Council and also this person's role in affecting sovereign member nations' local affairs. He's also questioning van Rompuy's qualifications and competancy. van Rompuy is a philosophy major and was a lecturer at universities before entering politics and becoming Belgium's PM. He has no distinguishing international career at resolving international crisis or politics. He hasn't shown the efficacy, intellect, guts, charisma or negotiating skills required to pull nations into cooperation. Simply put, this role needs a character, so intelligent, so bold, so charismatic, so effective that van Rompuy just doesn't seem adequate.
Pete and Tony,Yes, that is the impression I get from my outside observations. But, it is not as if I live anywhere near Europe, so I honestly don't pay as much attention to European politics as I most probably should. Let's just put it this way, Europe gets far more American media than does America get European media, and both are quite controlled. The only uncontrolled medium is the internet, which has its own problems, but has also increased the awareness of world events and has allowed people to connect across continents. If you were to simply contrast Farage vs his fellows in parliament, then I completely understand your point. But, most Americans (myself included) are more attuned to American politics than that found overseas, so the root understandings are quite different. It really is quite natural to pay more attention to things closer to home than abroad, but that often leaves a large gap in understanding. While the internet tends to close that gap a bit, it is often the case that that "gap" can be as wide as the 'Atlantic'.
Anon at 6.06 17thUKIP (and I speak as their press officer) are, have been and always will be opposed to Turkey joining the EU. I have no idea where you got that idea.Apart from anything else it is disingenuous of the Conservatives in the UK to support Turkish EU accession because, due to other countries like Austria it will not happen.What does happen in that pro-Western, liberal and free market supporting Turks have been gulled into hoping that the EU will have them. It won't and these people are now badly damaged political goods back in Turkey as they have promised something undeliverable.This means that opposition to the creeping Islamisation of the Turkish constitution has been perhaps fatally damaged.
I like Farage but his Germanophobic remarks here are disturbing.
He realy hits the nail right on the head. You do not have to agree with everything that he says, but by god we realy need plain speakers like him and not the prevaricating, bunch of self indulgent idiots that surround him.
Mr, David "U-turn" Cameron, should really have something to worry about now !! This guy puts his money where his mouth is
Agree with anonymous. Farage is likeable insofar as he assails those who deserve such, but why attack the German's for their austerity and parsimony. We should all be more like them, IMO.
Been watching Farage from the U.S. of A. for a while now. What sets him apart is his direct assault on the basis of power from which the eurocrats operate. It's pointless to complain about their actions. So long as they can claim legitimacy, they can dictate outcomes. Farage has been making the point that they are not elected, do not represent anyone, and therefore are little more than pretenders to the throne.
Talk is cheap - Farage profited over 2 million pounds in the expenses scandal, thats 2 million on top of his huge salary. He`s just as bad as the rest
This bloke should be our PM. He's the only one who says it like it is.
Nigel has definitely mastered oratory. Now he has merely to master civility, diplomacy and realising where he is standing and he might be onto something.
The BBC won't play this lest the British public, that pay their way, get ideas of democracy e.g the right to have say as to who actually governs us.The Germans I met, when they had their reunification, were less than happy with taxes it was visiting upon them God knows what they are saying behind their hands now given the cost is for the likes of Greece and Italy!
Never had much time for any "anonymous" which is one of the reasons any government never takes any notice of our views, because all we do is talk and wring our hands, what should we do? what should we do?Get off your backsides for a start and demonstrate! be more vocal.Be aware! all MPs are elected by us to serve us and manage the running of this country for the betterment of it's people and yet! run it for themselves? they dictate to us what our wages will increase by then quadruple there own?They fiddle there expenses? stick a few sacrificial lambs up for slaughter and it gets forgotten? we now have MPs refusing to pay back there fraudulent expenses and being allowed back in the House of Commons?You will not get strong enough reaction from any government until the people of this country make a strong enough protest! and that means getting on your feet.
Nigel does undoubtably have a big attacking mouth . Some of it is a genuine substance but most of it fails to be diplomatic or polite ." Manners maketh man & separates us from animals " myold gran used to say .Shooting your mouth off is one thing but does UKIP have any business experience or political governance experience to back it up and make things happen.. Sadly only about as much as the BNp Still he is amusing to watch & cuts a dashing figure in his eior suit unless of course he's being arragantly un diplomatic or being excedingly rude to an old man .
Being " Anonymous " on this reply system means you do not get spammed or pop up's Mr Edward Mussett Perhaps your not as wise as you think you are ( lol and smiles)
I think it's wholly wrong to condemn the German nation as a whole for the doings of Angela Merkel. The plain facts are that, Merkel's husband is a member of the committee which is a front for the Bilderberg group - which dicates to all leaders, of whatever political persuasion, how the future of Europe will run. In this instance, it's simply a step nearer to the United States of Europe - the very model the same financiers for Hitler (Ford Motor, JP Morgan, SONY - formerley Standard Oil of New Jersey etc) had hoped he would deliver. Mrs Merkel, who would not have been in the position she is in, were she not (a)the husband of a very powerful conduit of the Bilderberg Group and (b) chosen by the financiers (as are all of the current and past leaders for their ready and eager compliance) has no option but to do the bidding of her masters - nor have the rest of the political leaders in Europe - and very soon, the rest of the world.In short, none of the leaders we are seeing today, (Cameron, Blair as was, Bush as was, Barack et al)are in any position to do 'the right thing' for us. Sarkosy is simply a French (of some Greek extraction) Poodle ! Dig a little deeper - you only have to scratch the surface, and you may enlighten yourselves ! Nigel Farago and UKIP are of course, fully aware of how the system works, but they could hardly stand up and tell the people the true facts. They'd be laughed 'off the stage' by the equally compliant media - and thus, the gullible public.
Thank you Anonymous Dec 7, 7:19pm for your comments about Merkel & Bilderberg. I love Nigel Farage but he misses his own point: the leaders are doing what they want without any vote of the people. He can't blame the German people for what Merkel is doing without their consent.Merkel snuck into Bilderberg this year. What's important to note is that Bilderberg always plans ahead. Merkel is unpopular so will have a hard time staying in power in the fall of 2013. Sigmar Gabriel, head of the SPD is showing signs of understanding "the system" so...who gets rolled out now as a possible SPD chancellor candidate in 2013? Peer Steinbruck. They get ex-chancellor Schmidt to push him with a cover story in Der Spiegel.AND...who has seen the videos from this year's Bilderberg meeting of a group of attendees out taking a walk? Yep, that's Peer Steinbruck marching along with them.The other blind side of the otherwise brilliant Farage is that the City of London is--along with Wall Street and Washington DC--the center of the world's financial criminals. So, when Cameron just said "no" this week, he didn't say it because he cares about working people in the UK, he said it because he doesn't want his masters in the City of London to have any restrictions on their financial rape and destruction of the world's economies.Cameron, just like Merkel, is doing what he is told--and doing it willingly. Cameron, of course, wants to stay in the EU so he can continue the London Banksters efforts at destroying any alternative to their control.
Farage for PM! - well done David for sticking it to them the other day, but you don't go far enough.Now Merky and Teacosy are trying to stitch Europe up between them, perhaps we can all remember and note that this is nothing other than an undercover attempt to achieve what 2 world wars failed to do - viz German dominance.Did you catch the comment in the Daily Mail where Merky even hinted at war, if the EU didn't turn the way they want it to??Don't the Germans ever learn?I have come to believe that the whole concept of the EU is flawed,the leadership of which is basically corrupt - as are many of its officials - and that the most important issue of the day to rid ourselves of it.Thanks you Nigel for your exposure of the way things really are. I almost don't care for what the rest of your politics are, you get my vote next time! Very very well done!
excellent speech that man,those smug dickheads need a lot more of that from all quarters, perhaps then they may see the error of their ways,
Brilliant. Spoken in a language everyone in Europe understands . It made uncomfortable watching for those on the recieving end which is what democracy should be about.Good honest plain speaking cutting right to the point. I only wish there were more ELECTED European who had the courage to speak so honestly without having to protect their unelected positions in the Eupopean Court.
Barroso, Van Rompuy are the puppets of Merkozy tandem. Germany wants to dominate Europe again and Merkel believes that selecting these puppets with no country would do the dirty job.It will not work ! The truth is coming out !Great speech Nigel Farage !