Tuesday, February 7, 2012
Here's Government's Latest Plan to Gain Control of the Internet
Via the Daily Caller:
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, following a recent anti-piracy legislative debacle with SOPA and PIPA, will lead his second effort of 2012 to push Internet-regulating legislation, this time in the form of a new cybersecurity bill. The expected bill is the latest attempt by the Democrats to broadly expand the authority of executive branch agencies over the Internet.
Details about the bill remain shrouded in secrecy. Clues available to the public suggest that the bill might be stronger than President Barack Obama’s cybersecurity proposal, which was released in May 2011. Reid said that he would bring the bill — expected to come out of the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, chaired by Connecticut independent Sen. Joe Lieberman — to the floor during the first Senate work period of 2012.
A classified meeting behind closed doors in October 2011 between key Senate committee leaders with jurisdiction over cybersecurity and White House officials, took place at the request of the Obama administration. Lieberman, in an interview with The Hill in October, said that past Senate cybersecurity bills were considerably stronger than the White House proposal.
The White House proposal recommended that the Department of Homeland Security be given broad regulatory authority for cybersecurity matters over civilian networks. The White House proposal also recommends that the DHS program be “developed in consultation with privacy and civil liberties experts and with the approval of the Attorney General.”
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They are taking Amerika down in flames, much like the Soviet Union. Freedom-minded people in the states need to seriously consider state secession and nullification of these dictatorial intrusions.
ReplyDeleteThis is nothing like the Soviet Union. All of these people are elected by the public. The buck stops with the voter.
DeleteThis is nothing like the Soviet Union. We actually believe we are free.
DeleteThe buck would stop with the voter if bucks didn't buy the elections. And once you start giving up civil liberties, it is much harder to get them back.
DeleteNot always possible to kick out elected officials if elected by single-member districts, where it's incredibly tough to defeat an incumbent advantaged by gerrymandering.
Delete--All of these people are elected by the public
DeleteHahahahaha that's a good one.
Oh....you're serious.
You spelled America wrong. How about we work on our education a bit more before we implement radical changes in our government.
DeleteHowever, what happened to "freedom of Speech" and "Congress shall make no law"?
These Internet Piracy ideas are not American.
You're an idiot if you think this problem doesn't cross party lines.
DeleteTell that to Republicans in Nevada.
DeleteThey're elected by us the people but once they got in, they were bought out by corporate interests and don't represent the public whatsoever. Similar to the Soviet Union.
DeleteThe rampant vote fraud in this country makes most elections questionable at best, especially in the higher levels, like US Congress and the President, State governors, etc. Anonymous makes most sense of any of you
DeleteThese bureaucrats and politicians never give up!
ReplyDeleteThey never give up as long as they are paid well for it.
DeleteIt's their paid job to screw us over
DeleteClearly the question is no longer IF but WHEN do these street thugs get control?
ReplyDeleteAlso, on a side not Comrade Obamanovic will be re-elected I am certain, so this will happen in January/Februart next year by my guestimate!
Just what we need... another one... -_-;
ReplyDeleteHopefully Harry Reid gets voted out in November.
He's in for another five years.
DeleteYou're in the military, huh? Well guess what pal...if I have to depend on assholes like you for my security, I'm already screwed. You took an oath to uphold the Constitution. Remember? Take your fascist propaganda elsewhere. Are you seeing the comments to your post, GI Joe? Nobody's buying it anymore. The enemy resides within and you seem to be aligned with the real enemy.
DeleteThe electorate of Nevada saw fit to re-elect Harry Reid to a 6 year term in 2010. Forget electoral politics. It's a rigged game. Sure, you can vote for Ron Paul, but that's just a gesture...spitting in the soup, as it were. There is no salvation through the ballot box.
DeleteThey want you to think that you're in control via the power of your vote. That's nonsense. As Emma Goldamn said..."If voting made any difference, they'd make it illegal."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullification_Crisis
ReplyDeleteJust saying.
Snowball effect...
DeleteSo, when are we going to oust these fuckers?
ReplyDeleteI'm ashamed of my country at this point. I wouldn't blame the rest of the world if they finally just got sick of all the corrupt politicians here and declared war on us.
ReplyDeleteLike it matters if it is a republocrat or a dem oiclan, most are on the take.
ReplyDeleteThis is ridiculous we need to stand ready, I have a feeling the bureaucrats arent going to stop until a SOPA like bill finally passes. Also, I wouldnt make it seem like its JUST the Dems doing this. If you remember, Republican Lamar Smith was the one who introduced SOPA. We need to keep an eye on all these assholes
ReplyDeleteOf course that pig Joe Lieberman is involved in this horrible legislation.
ReplyDeleteI work in the military and am very familiar with the cybersecurity issues at play here. The reason to call for "regulation" of civilian internet infrastructure is because civilian infrastructure is THE backbone of all network communications in the country TO INCLUDE government and military data. The vast majority of our data passes on unclassified networks using commercial lines.
ReplyDeleteWhat this means is, we can harden the military and government networks all we want, but an attacker who hits AT&T/etc can cause major disruptions not only to you as civilians in your daily life but also to the government and military ability to respond to an attack. We would essentially be in the same position Hussein's army was in when we invaded, because we knocked out their ability to communicate with each other.
Make no mistake, China and Russia are INCREDIBLY good at doing this. It was recently publicly revealed that Chinese malware was found infesting US **CIVILIAN** power grid networks and had the ability to wreak major havoc with large portions of the national power grid if activated.
This is NOT something to play with. There are VERY valid points to be made about privacy and preventing government tyranny, but there are ALSO valid points about securing our infrastructure from the attack that WILL come sooner rather than later.
That attack IS guaranteed to happen. So it is up to you to decide which is more important -- running around hysterically hyperventilating about things you know little/nothing about, or preparing for the counterattack.
YOU decide. Just don't come whining to the military if you keep going down the rabbit hole you currently are and we get caught flatfooted as a result.
At this point does it really matter which communitarian overlords we have, whether they be Russian, Chinese, or D.C.ians?
Delete"This is NOT something to play with."
Delete"That attack IS guaranteed to happen."
"YOU decide. Just don't come whining to the military if you keep going down the rabbit hole you currently are and we get caught flatfooted as a result."
Oooh... scary.
Listen, I don't know if you are a dipshit, a traitor, or both, but the technology required to generate an EMF sufficient to knock out the Country has been around since the 1950s.
Wait, so has the technology to turn the surface of the earth into backed charcoal and glass!
If you think we should convert our Country into a STASI fascist nightmare where quality of life is shit and police read our emails in order to "protect" us from bullshit spooky "malware" Joe Lieberman tells us is being developed by Russia or China then you need to have your head checked.
Guess what? The economic destruction you would wreak in this country by eliminating the free flow of information is far worse than any "malware" the Chinese are going to develop, to say nothing of the destruction of a free way of life.
Don't want to have a problem? Then don't hook your network into the internet. But don't come here trying to scare us with bullshit in order to control us, convince us to invade other Countries, or take away our freedoms. Unless you have a death wish that is. Don't think we'll take it sitting down. Do you know how many guns Americans own? Do you really think the armed forces won't side with American citizens when the shit hits the fan?
I know Fox News is probably spoon feeding you this shit but go back to the front lines please, critical thinking isn't your strong point.
DeleteThere is a HUGE difference in protecting our country and censoring the internet. How does a bill like SOPA protect our nation's infrastructure? How do DNS redirects prevent China from taking down our networks? THEY DON'T.
DeleteIf the US wants to secure our networks, fine, go ahead. Secure the datacenters against physical attacks and virtually secure routers, switches and other hardware against hacking, etc to improve the reliability and stability of our backbone.
A bill to censor the internet will not help protect our national infrastructure in any way. In fact, it'll open the doors to all kinds of private DNS spoofing attacks that WILL let our enemies gain access to more devices stateside than ever before. So, how about YOU stop "running around hysterically hyperventilating about things you know little/nothing about".
OR... _stop using civilian networks_. The military budget for 2012 is apparently $1.030–$1.415 trillion, I think you assholes can fit building your own communication networks in between all that murder you're so fond of.
DeleteI work in private sector information security and I don't believe in giving the government control over our network under the guise of security. I will not give in to fear.
Delete1. Any military/government intervention in security matters won't actually stop foreign hackers from attacking. Attribution remains as impossible as ever. Government "expertise" is not necessary to develop countermeasures.
2. The private sector already cooperates with the government in criminal investigations, because their incentives already align with the government's.
3. Just because the military uses civilian networks doesn't mean it should be able to take over those networks. This is like a digital version of a 3rd amendment violation. Get your own network if you don't know how to logically secure data. Oh wait, it's called SIPRnet
If that is the case then maybe the military should stop using commercial lines.
DeleteSo putting incompetent government bureaucrats in charge addresses your valid "security" points how?
DeleteDo companies operating in the consumer marketplace not have any incentives to secure their own networks?
No. Government, military, NSA have acted like weasels on the issue of the internet. No credibility. No.
DeleteThe internet is not to be government controlled, just as 2 decades ago (or so) newspapers were free to print whatever their editors wanted(whether they were on take is seperate question). Therefore if military is stupid enough to use the inernet to transfer their information, then they have created a security weak point. They should find other ways to transmit info. Many exist.
DeleteYou are terrible, people like you should have their own country where Bush is in charge and you are thousands of miles from anyone you can influence, I suppose we should also remove any means to hurt yourselves such as pointy scissors etc..
DeleteYou say "don't come whining to the military" if something goes wrong with the internet.
DeleteYou've just stated you won't be part of the solution. You've just benched yourself. That's what I've wanted in the first place.
Stand down and stay down. Jackass.
well what kind of an attack would it be? An attack on the 1%'s saving accounts?
ReplyDeleteOf, By, And For, Not "to rule over" anything the military or police could do, average joe could do for himself, We DO NOT NEED someone "Protecting" us with an iron fist. take all your "security threats" and your "guaranteed attacks" <--(looks to me like fear-mongering) and peddle that elsewhere. The older generation is on its way out, and it can take its policies and procedures with them. We the people, Do not need it, Nor do we want it, we were unfortunate enough to be born into it. And as for "don't come whining to the military" lol when was they last time someone came to you or your superior and said..."Please Mr. Military man, someone who looks like they might be a cyber terrorist is downloading files that are secret, Hurry before its too late, strip me of my privacy rights, to keep me safe".
ReplyDeleteIf that is the case, then maybe the military should just stop using commercial lines.
ReplyDeleteWhat is Reid's angle on this issue? Why is he so gung ho for it? Lots of Hollywood contributions? What?
ReplyDeleteLegalize Freedom, vote Ron Paul.
ReplyDeleteIts very simply going to end up being a socialist/military complex here is the good old USA....perhaps a few states will seceed and freedom loving folks can live there!
ReplyDeletePIPA,SOPA is so obviously aimed at shutting down public forums of discussion on any subject the government doesn't want discussed, and copyright issues just a pretext. (Why are they not shutting down major newspapers on the grounds that classified ads sometimes sell pirate DVD's)?
ReplyDeleteTheir strategy is to shut down entire forums because of what a single independent user does. Not only is it grossly out of proportion and discriminates against the 99.9% of legitimate uses of the forum - but this legislation actually ENABLES malicious sabotage by a troublemaker deliberately posting copyright info in order to disable the site. Further still - it would allow the GOVERNMENT to do this to stifle opposing opinion expressed on any public forum site.
This legislation is utterly moronic!
No, the legislation is quite shrewd in its form.
DeleteAlmost all legislation can be understood perfectly by reading the legislative "title". Just take the meaning of the title and figure out what the opposite of that is, and there you have it.
SOPA/PIPA are both creatures of an industry which is starting to go the way of buggy whips, the recorded media industry. Let the industries modify THEMSELVES to become more profitable, or wither and fade away. Don't let them buy their way into money by owning some legislators.
If anyone thought it was over with SOPA & PIPA this shows they are hell bent in shutting down the internet as it is their biggest threat since it exposes the lies and deceit
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