Wednesday, January 2, 2013

Pravda: Americans Never Give Up Your Guns

Understand this article and you will understand the real reason not to give up your guns.-RW

By Stanislav Mishin

These days, there are few few things to admire about the socialist, bankrupt and culturally degenerating USA, but at least so far, one thing remains: the right to bare arms and use deadly force to defend one's self and possessions.

This will probably come as a total shock to most of my Western readers, but at one point, Russia was one of the most heavily armed societies on earth. This was, of course, when we were free under the Tsar. Weapons, from swords and spears to pistols, rifles and shotguns were everywhere, common items. People carried them concealed, they carried them holstered. Fighting knives were a prominent part of many traditional attires and those little tubes criss crossing on the costumes of Cossacks and various Caucasian peoples? Well those are bullet holders for rifles.

Various armies, such as the Poles, during the Смута (Times of Troubles), or Napoleon, or the Germans even as the Tsarist state collapsed under the weight of WW1 and Wall Street monies, found that holding Russian lands was much much harder than taking them and taking was no easy walk in the park but a blood bath all its own. In holding, one faced an extremely well armed and aggressive population Hell bent on exterminating or driving out the aggressor.

This well armed population was what allowed the various White factions to rise up, no matter how disorganized politically and militarily they were in 1918 and wage a savage civil war against the Reds. It should be noted that many of these armies were armed peasants, villagers, farmers and merchants, protecting their own. If it had not been for Washington's clandestine support of and for the Reds, history would have gone quite differently.

Moscow fell, for example, not from a lack of weapons to defend it, but from the lieing guile of the Reds. Ten thousand Reds took Moscow and were opposed only by some few hundreds of officer cadets and their instructors. Even then the battle was fierce and losses high. However, in the city alone, at that time, lived over 30,000 military officers (both active and retired), all with their own issued weapons and ammunition, plus tens of thousands of other citizens who were armed. The Soviets promised to leave them all alone if they did not intervene. They did not and for that were asked afterwards to come register themselves and their weapons: where they were promptly shot.

Of course being savages, murderers and liars does not mean being stupid and the Reds learned from their Civil War experience. One of the first things they did was to disarm the population. From that point, mass repression, mass arrests, mass deportations, mass murder, mass starvation were all a safe game for the powers that were. The worst they had to fear was a pitchfork in the guts or a knife in the back or the occasional hunting rifle. Not much for soldiers.

To this day, with the Soviet Union now dead 21 years, with a whole generation born and raised to adulthood without the SU, we are still denied our basic and traditional rights to self defense. Why? We are told that everyone would just start shooting each other and crime would be everywhere....but criminals are still armed and still murdering and to often, especially in the far regions, those criminals wear the uniforms of the police. The fact that everyone would start shooting is also laughable when statistics are examined.

While President Putin pushes through reforms, the local authorities, especially in our vast hinterland, do not feel they need to act like they work for the people. They do as they please, a tyrannical class who knows they have absolutely nothing to fear from a relatively unarmed population. This in turn breeds not respect but absolute contempt and often enough, criminal abuse.

For those of us fighting for our traditional rights, the US 2nd Amendment is a rare light in an ever darkening room. Governments will use the excuse of trying to protect the people from maniacs and crime, but are in reality, it is the bureaucrats protecting their power and position. In all cases where guns are banned, gun crime continues and often increases. As for maniacs, be it nuts with cars (NYC, Chapel Hill NC), swords (Japan), knives (China) or home made bombs (everywhere), insane people strike. They throw acid (Pakistan, UK), they throw fire bombs (France), they attack. What is worse, is, that the best way to stop a maniac is not psychology or jail or "talking to them", it is a bullet in the head, that is why they are a maniac, because they are incapable of living in reality or stopping themselves.

The excuse that people will start shooting each other is also plain and silly. So it is our politicians saying that our society is full of incapable adolescents who can never be trusted? Then, please explain how we can trust them or the police, who themselves grew up and came from the same culture?

No it is about power and a total power over the people. There is a lot of desire to bad mouth the Tsar, particularly by the Communists, who claim he was a tyrant, and yet under him we were armed and under the progressives disarmed. Do not be fooled by a belief that progressives, leftists hate guns. Oh, no, they do not. What they hate is guns in the hands of those who are not marching in lock step of their ideology. They hate guns in the hands of those who think for themselves and do not obey without question. They hate guns in those whom they have slated for a barrel to the back of the ear.

So, do not fall for the false promises and do not extinguish the light that is left to allow humanity a measure of self respect.

Reprinted from Paravda and originally appeared at the author's blogMat Rodina

(nt Travis Holte)

54 comments:

  1. Very powerful. How I wish more Americans would read, and be inquisitive!

    I never swallowed everything they taught me in school. In my 20s, I realized it would be beneficial (even though a sacrifice) to reevaluate nearly everything I was ever told; as much as possible.

    Today, I believe in no regulation of guns whatsoever. Let anyone buy them. Then punish crimes. I have no doubt that crime will decrease, there will be fewer murders, and the good guys can have carte blanche to protect themselves. Especially from government.

    Side note: People joke about kiddie rapers in the Catholic Church. Nobody jokes about kiddie rapers in government. The media has done a good job for our rulers on this and guns.

    At this stage of the game, there is no reforming institutions. We must completely circumvent them, in my opinion. Take the pizza hut guy, demoted for using a stick against 5 robbers. Institutions are failing. Pizza Hut doesn't even make food worth defending, but they treat that guy's life like it is worthless.

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    1. http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

      You are correct.

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  2. Anyone know of where I can read about this saga of Russian history that this writer describes?

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    1. "Russia in Chains" - two rare books were written by a Russian professor who escaped from Soviet Gulag in 1933. these two books speak in great details about Russia before and after Social Democrats (ie. Bolsheviks) took power in Russia. The books were translated and published in UK in 1938 in a single limited edition. They were never published again.

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    2. Why they were never published again? Even in the Western World? Maybe because there is no difference between Bolsheviks and Queen of England, or between Bolsheviks and the government of USA.Afterall they all are the same;once on the top, how many will willingly step down?...And once you're on the top is very important your slaves cannot rebel and put your own neck under the quillotine.1789 was a lesson all politicians learned and not many forgot...

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  3. That's also why no one messes with Switzerland.

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    1. That's wat they want you to believe. It's true,in Switzerland almost all households have one or two military grade weapon, and all males are trained how to use them, but that's not the real reason why nobody dares to threat Switzerland.
      The real reason is:Switzerland, as a form of government was found by the late Templiers in 13th and 14th century,when Papacy,suported by rising royal families in Western Europe,started to take it hard on them.They just took their money and knowledge up in the mountains and vanished.After 7 centuries, their money,power and global influence is almost palpable.At this point, who do you expect to take it on Switzerland, as long as it's founders managed to get in all the other leading famillies in Europe, called "The black nobility", managed to create "Illuminatti",and not any branch, but "Bavarian Illuminatti"-the most powerfull and dangerous branch.(At my last check on the map,Bavaria is bordering Switzerland on the North).And, despite the fact Switzerland is calling itself a republic, maybe you can explain to me why Hohenzolern family is allowed to retain sovereignity of ducate of Lichtenstein,which is INSIDE AND NOT CLOSE TO ANY BORDER OF SWITZERLAND!
      Now, finally, I hope you know why Switzerland was never beeing threated.It's not about the guns,it's about who lives there.
      Because,if would be only about guns, my friend,Afganistan would be the freest country in this World!!!
      Get your head out of the sand,look around you and try to use your brain(if you have one)...

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    2. Human nature is immutable. Some always blindly follow, some lead, and some think they can do damn well as the please when they get a little power...And yes I have read Gulag...

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  4. Very interesting, reminds me of the warnings of A Solzhenitsyn (sp) back in the 1970's. Read The Gulag Archipeligo

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    1. Absolutely, read The Gulag Archipeligo and you could never turn in your guns.

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    2. Solzhenitsyn changed my life in high school. I read "A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" one night (yes, in just 8 hours- I had a report to do, but was fascinated and repulsed at the same time) but I never looked at "political power" the same way ever again.

      It's sad that Russia Today (the news site) is the most libertarian TV network, while the US is stuck with MSNBCBSFOXNews.

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  5. should be front page new york times.." When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns"

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    1. In Mexico, firearms are only permitted for hunters, usually wealthy, who can get through the paperwork and pay the fees.
      So only the criminals have guns, and of course, the police, and military. The corner businessman has no protection.

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  6. I wish there was a way to easily email this article. It needs to be widespread.
    Its common sense. When will the liberals understand this? Never?

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    1. Here's how to e-mail the article: Right click on the main address at the top of this page. Left click on "copy" in the menu that drops down.

      Go to your "new e-mail message" in Outlook; click in the blank message space. Right click to get the little drop down menu again. Left click on "paste". After your cursor begins to blink at the and of the now pasted address, hit the space bar once to underline the link and engage it. It's that easy.

      Blind carbon copy (BCC) everyone who is interested, all at once. No one can see who else is getting the message. Except the feds, and hackers, I presume.If you don't see a BCC address line below your TO: and CC: lines, just click "Options" at the top of your Outlook message to the right of "Insert", and you can activate BCC there. Don't forget that all your e-mails are now being saved by the Feds in their new underground vault....not that I'm the suspicious type. But I can think of only one reason why they would do such a thing.

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    2. Simple. Save it as a .pdf file and attach it to your email address list.

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  7. Does anyone here get G. Edward Griffin's Newsletter (email) on Fridays? He listed all school shootings, stabbings etc from all over the world in his 12/21/2012 issue and the one common denominator in each and every one. It was psychotropic drugs. I knew that, but it was horrifying to see such abuse of our 2nd amendment rights trying to be flushed down the toilet, by what appears to have been another false flag event, and the sheeple just don't get it!

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  8. There are more guns than people in the US. Anyone that even considers that the government would attempt to take our weapons away is on crack. Aint gonna happen, ever. Move on to something that matters.

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    1. "Move on to something that matters" - Are you that stupid? I think not. Must be something else.

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    2. Government has many-many "civil" ways to disarm people. There is no need for Gov. to take guns away. Slowly outlaw guns through laws and regulations.

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    3. You deffinitely didn't read the main article carefully...
      At some point he says:After the Reds secured Moscow,they asked every law abidding citizen to came and register their weapons.Every law abiding citizen who did that"got a barrel behind his ear"...
      Do you really think it was a barrel full of vitamins?...

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    4. When a law is passed by the feds it will go to the states who will pass it to the countys who will give it to the citys to inforce. They will ask that you surrender your weapons. They might even offer to pay for them, as some places are already doing. Then they will check their file of GUN REGISTRATION CARDS and a number of officers, well armed, will show up at your door and"remind" you that you didn't turn in your gun. Most will meekly submit. The rest, well thats what the swat team outside your door will be for. Eather way they will get you firearm!!!

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    5. Senator Feinstein's legislation that will be introduced January 22, 2013 has in it the ability to spend hundreds per weapon to "register" it and "protect" the gun owner. Then upon death you have to give the gun to the Federal Government because you cant sell it or give it to your children. Sure the government cant get all the guns in a few months. But over a generation of offering free cell phones to those who turn in guns, and confiscating the ones citizens keep... they can get the majority.

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  9. Interesting perspective and I will now go and read more of the soviet history reported above. Having lived in the US for the past two years I agree with the above comment that most people would not give up their guns as they would vote against anybody that brought in gun legislation. However,I also believe if the govt legislated gun control most of the population would abide and give up guns. So they only way to save yourselves is to continue to support right wing nut job NRA lobbyests. Don't give up guns, raise taxes through a flatter broad based tax that captures the black economy and the rich. ie VAT or GST. Deal with your bloated and inefficient health care and stop pissing 10% of your GDP down the drain whilst denying basic health care to everybody.

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    1. NRA are less and less supportive of individual gun ownership. They are mainly business lobby: when government budget was smaller, it made sense for the business to fight hard for individual gun rights; now with the overblown government budget they supported (or even coined in?) the bright idea of 'armed guard at every school' after the recent New City shooting. It is risky to oppose the government; thus as soon as the sums the government spends on guns size and those left for citizens to spend on their whim after taxes become comparable, it becomes only natural for the business to move from supporting freedom to supporting government.

      By the way, the situation when business becomes government-loving from freedom-loving is the original definition of the fascism (as fascism was born in Italy in 1921 when 'National Fascist Party' was founded, well before German variant came to live).

      There are other organizations, such as NAGR and less known peripheral groups like Oath Keepers that seem to be more concerned with Constitutional rights than supporting gun companies; but they are understandably weaker as they do not enjoy organizational and financial support from the businesses and citizens' support has been lately losing to lobbyists' big way.

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  10. The government will not just pass a simple law that says turn in your guns. It will be a hefty tax on purchases and registration fees that will at least slow the buyers down in the future. Say you purchase a semi-auto pistol for $500 and the tax and registration fees cost another $500. How many guns do you thing would be purchased? Then as time passes newer laws will pass to deny the purchase of certain types of weapons and then on down the road more new legislation to stop the sell of others until one day you wake up to no gun sales. Who know what the gun grabbers of tomorrow will come up with but IT scares me to think that we could in time become much like Germany in pre-war era.
    And why are so many laws passed to suit the few instead of the masses wishes. What kind of government is it that we have now? I don't trust anyone who is in Congress.

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    1. Has anyone actually read Mein Kampf by Adolph Hitler?? Interesting reading, plus it lays out the "Final Solution" of ridding Germany of the unwanted peoples. Look up and see that he was Time Magazine's Person of the year in 1938. And Obama is a repeat Person of the year now. Looks to me that history is repeating itself.

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    2. rights are lost incrementally. At first it's "we need to protect the children" and many will turn in their guns, then it's "we need to keep assault weapons out of criminals hands" and certain types of guns are banned and taken off the market, and before you know it, you cannot purchase bullets, etc. Before you start voting to deprive good honest citizens their rights just because you may have a problem with guns, people, remember, it is YOUR rights they will come after next.never give up ANY right, you may someday need it back

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  11. Hell yes.

    If they want them from me, they will have to come and take them.

    V

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    1. RICHARD AUKCOO FOWLERJanuary 4, 2013 at 6:40 AM

      I KNOW THE DIFFRENCE BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG.

      YOU TAUGHT ME.

      WHY DONT YOU KNOW?

      RICHARD AUKCOO FOWLER

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    2. And they most certanly will !!!

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  12. I have not seen one single suggestion, even from the most left-wing sources, that American should give up their guns (handguns and hunting rifles), only assault weapons and automatic weapons. This piece is an overreaction, in my my opinion.
    Guns have one purpose only, which is to kill (people or animals). It is sad that so many people live in constant fear, and believe they must carry a killing machine to protect themselves. Some years ago I was target-shooting with friends in a Louisiana bayou and the handgun accidentally discharged while I was holding it. Luckily, no one was hurt, but the incident cured me of ever wanting to own a gun. I would like to see statistics on the number of injuries and fatalities from gun accidents.

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    1. Really? You've never heard Dianne Feinstein speak about this?

      You've never read the Daily Kos? (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/21/1172661/-How-to-Ban-Guns-A-step-by-step-long-term-process#)

      You're either totally unobservant or else another shill trying to lull people with this "but we just want REASONABLE restrictions blah blah blah."

      No, you don't. You want your god, the state, to have a total monopoly on weapons. And you're not fooling anyone anymore.

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    2. You are welcome to give up your gun.

      I will not.

      When they raise the price on ammo with increased taxes, I will load my own.

      When they demand I turn in my "assault weapon", I will report it stolen.

      I WILL NOT SURRENDER MY ARMS.

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    3. It is a sad thing when people like you cannot and will not see the light. You have the right to your opinion and your decision to distance yourself from firearms but I have the right to own them use them and defend myself as I please and any attempt to alter that by any way shape or form by the government is a direct assault on the second ammendment, my liberties, my opinions and decisions, and most importantly the foundational freedoms of this country

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    4. You have expressed yourself like a true American and defender of the Constitution of the United States.

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    5. The weapon went off because you were foolish enough to grap ahold of it before being properly informed on how to do so. Did you drive a car without being told how to do it. I think not. The constatution says all guns. Thomas Jefferson said he signed the 2nd admendment because we will need the guns,some day, to protect ourselves against our own goverment. I like to think that we lasted this long because of it. Further I am not in constant fear and I like to think that the reason is because I have a weapon around if I should need it. Its not a pea shooter, hand gun or a small hunting rifle. How would I defend myself against a military mob?

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    6. guns 99.9999% of the time don't go off unless you do something ignorant or stupid. It is called a negligent discharge for a reason. And if you don't know what you are doing or are too dumb to follow simple safety instructions... then I agree you probably shouldn't carry a gun. And you are very wise to acknowledge it yourself.

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    7. Complete ignorance, original poster. "Automatic" guns were banned in 1934 and 1986 already. The military and gun makers define "assault rifles" as being intermediate caliber and capable of firing in burst mode, which none of the new selling ARs to the public does. So essentially you are calling for banning of self loading rifles, which are called "assault" rifles bc of cosmetic features. In other words, they look scary bc your firearm knowledge consists of Hollywood movies and the media's stellar reporting.

      You are advocating banning something that is already banned! Not to mention that self loading rifles are linked to around 323 murders in 2011 by the FBI's stats - yet there were over 500 murders last year in Chicago - where guns are banned - alone. Far more people are beaten to death with fists, with clubs, or stabbed to death with knives than murdered with a rifle - not to mention pistols being involved in around 18 times more deaths, yet why are pistols not the focus instead of self loading rifles?

      No firearm is capable of simply "going off" - only clueless morons who don't let their ignorance of firearms stop them from handling one think that happens. You pulled the trigger, then tried to blame the firearm.

      If guns have only one purpose, and one has to be in "fear" to have them, then why do the police and military have them? What about drone strikes? How much fear and what purpose do they serve besides blowing Muslim children up so Obama can look tough on terrorists?

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    8. BTW, guns do NOT have "one purpose" as is commonly stated by fascist gun banner types. Just the other day, an elderly relative of mine defended her home from a robbery attempt by pointing her firearm at him through the glass door. It was only after she pointed her pistol at him and informed him that she was about to shoot that he ran away.

      It took the police over thirty minutes to get there after she called 911. So in this case, as well as many, many others every year, the firearm served the purpose of saving property and the life of a woman in her 70s.

      If it were up to Feinstein, Schumer, Bloomberg, etc. - she would not have been able to defend herself, and would have been at the mercy of the drugged out would be robber for thirty minutes before the police arrived. This is why the public is against gun banning radical fascists other than in some of the big inner city areas.

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  13. Mr. Mishin

    You place the blame for Communist take over in Russia on the U.S.
    How about the Rothschild's of Europe (and the U.S.) through their
    agent Schiff head of Kuhn and Loebe who sent millions of dollars
    to support the Bolshevik revolt in Russia after Nathan Rothschild
    vowed some day to dethrone the Romanovs for the Czar's refusal to
    accept a central banking system in Russia?

    EDT
    Chicago, Illinois

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  14. Restore the Constitution as the law of the land.

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    1. Well. It is the law of the land. It just has to be inforced. Its our duty to keep reminding our elected officels of that over and over again till it soaks in. If it doesn't then kick there butt out and get another who will understand!!!

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  15. http://nation.foxnews.com/gun-rights/2013/01/03/fbi-more-people-killed-hammers-clubs-each-year-rifles

    Looks as if someone from foxnews reads econ policy journal....

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  16. Listen il folks:
    Intresting article, nur ild school.
    We live in a time where nobody is intrested in other people. All what counts is making money. How? Well this is the right question.
    Selling. Selling everything and most stuff not even needed. Steeling from other peoples pockets I call it.
    Everybody wants more. Kids and toddlers getting attacked with all kids of chunk. Media, Music, TV even Magazine's attacking people every day. Most of us do not live in the wilderness. Most of us believe, we civilized. I disagree. Guns, weapons of what ever needed to defend them self or just to show, do not.mess around.with me or I will shoot you. Lol....funny. America is already 3 times bankrupt. More people are in depth they never ever can pay back, but more.money needed to buy more.stuff. with out credit cards this country would be.long time history and with out support from China and the European nation America feel apart like the SU. Control? Sure every government like to control their voters. Because they steel from you in form if taxes we have to pay if you Freude to live in this country. There is a global connection going on and almost everybody inbthe free world can go and live where ever he/she wants. America will fail in the next couple years, may decades, but not longer as 15-20 years. Everybody will run around with guns and getbwhatbthe so called.need for.living. taxes in other countries already up to 50% of.your income. Gas prices 9 bucks the gallon are normal standard in Europe or even higher....this will come to the US nation as well. No doubt. With or with out guns. Humans are animals. The worsed one on this planet. And they will be always crime and shooting. The human kind will be wiped out of.this wonderful planet and the nature will get every inch back. Because we do not understand this gift we have received to obay.
    Sad is, that after crazy shooting in colombine the ruffled association hold the meeting in Colorado. That weapon adds show up right underneth the sandy report. People are.ignorant and ungracefull. That's why we will not excist like it.is right.now.
    No Nation, No regime, No epoche last forever. Live.is an everongoing thing.
    Amerika has to change.it it will fail.

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  17. Apparently, a member of the Biden anti-gun commission and political hack has a son who was convicted of attempting a CT style school shooting, possibly with his dad's firearm! This is amazing! This is from the same guy who broke the Fast and Furious story on his blog, so he is completely legit.

    http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2013/01/sipsey-street-exclusive-thomas-nee-key.html

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  18. :Standing Ovation: That was incredibly well-written, and very insightful. Thank you for sharing.

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  19. Above stated guns only serve one purpose, to kill. There are thousands of competitive shooters in this country who would disagree. Ever heard of trap/skeet shooting? Why are guns used in several Olympic events? They can be used for killing yes, just as a baseball bat or golf club can be. They are also used in many sporting activities. So stop being stupid.

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  20. People who defend the proposition should consider that there will be no one to defend them when they are faced with a life threatening situation. The police are quoted to be here to help and protect but everything will be over by the time they arrive. To be sure, they will always arrive AFTER the damage is done if there is no one present that can respond. Here are a few interesting links worth taking a look at:
    http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html
    http://archive.lewrockwell.com/orig3/victor7.1.1.html
    Remember, we are all free to seek our own freedom and happiness and to defend ourselves when threatened, denying anyone of this right usurps the basic tenant of liberty.

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  21. Har, har: "the right to bare arms and use deadly force". Ok, so "bare" was probably a typo. More serious, however, is the claim that

    "If it had not been for Washington's clandestine support of and for the Reds, history would have gone quite differently."

    Until now I had been under the impression that Washington aided the Whites through a direct intervention. If it were claimed that Washington aided the Reds to make Europe safe for the Communist Party and the social democrats, I would have agreed wholeheartedly.

    No quarrel, however, with the claim that leftists do not hate guns. In fact, it has long been obvious that leftists have such a high regard for the efficacy of guns that they eagerly support the cops and military personnel whom they expect to do their dirty work for them while armed with guns.

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  23. @Anon at 2:42

    My understanding is that assault weapons and handguns already have restrictions applied to them.

    Also, you write:
    " It is sad that so many people live in constant fear, and believe they must carry a killing machine to protect themselves."

    A knife is also a killing machine. So also a bottle of aspirin, a vial of acid, a metal bar, a car (in spades).

    If you carry a killing machine, why would be in "constant fear"? If people are so heavily armed and so fearful, why are they getting slaughtered all the time, without a whimper?

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  24. http://mindbodypolitic.com/2014/03/24/the-colonial-roots-of-gun-control/
    Gandhi was against gun-control.

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