Tuesday, October 27, 2009

ClimaFearists Want to Cause Soaring Meat Prices

ClimaFearist Lord Nicholas Stern, a former chief economist of the World Bank and now I. G. Patel Professor of Economics at the London School of Economics, is to be feared. He is a ClimaFearist with clout.

He is leading a movemnet to, get this, ban meat to save the planet. Here's TimesOnline with details:
People will need to consider turning vegetarian if the world is to conquerclimate change, according to a leading authority on global warming.

Inan interview with The Times, Lord Stern of Brentford said: “Meat is a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse gases. It puts enormous pressure on the world’s resources. A vegetarian diet is better.”

Direct emissions of methane from cows and pigs is a significant source of greenhouse
gases [Greenhouse gases, loaded term? RW]...

Lord Stern, the author of the influential 2006 Stern Review on the cost of tackling global warming, said that a successful deal at the Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen in December would lead to soaring costs for meat and other foods that generate large quantities of greenhouse gases.
The Stern Review on the Economics of Climate Change is a 700-page report released on October 30, 2006 by Stern for the British government.

The UK Treasury, which commissioned the report, simultaneously published a document of favourable comments on the Review. Those quoted include, typical global interventionists, with no background in climatology:

Paul Wolfowitz, former President of the World Bank
Claude Mandil, Executive Director of the International Energy Agency
Kirit Parikh, Member, Planning Commission, Government of India
Adair Turner, Former Director of UK Confederation of British Industry and Economic Advisor to Sustainable Development Commission
Sir Rod Eddington, Adviser to the UK Government on the long term links between transport and economic growth, and former Chief Executive of British Airways

What's really behind it?

In an article in the Daily Telegraph, Ruth Lea, Director of the Centre for Policy Studies, questioned the scientific consensus that the Stern Review alleges. She says that "authorities on climate science say that the climate system is far too complex for modest reductions in one of the thousands of factors involved in climate change (i.e., carbon emissions) to have a predictable effect in magnitude, or even direction." Lea questions the long-term economic projections made in the Review, commenting that economic forecasts for just two or three years ahead are usually wrong. Lea goes on to describes the problem of drawing conclusions from combining scientific and economic models as "monumentally complex", and doubts whether the international cooperation on climate change, as argued for in the Review, is really possible. In conclusion, Lea says that the real motive behind the Review is to justify increased tax on fuels.


  1. Three cheers for anyone who works to minimize the murder of innocent creatures.

    This is ONE years worth of animal slaughter on this earth.

    - 45,895 million (45.9 billion) chickens
    – 2,262 million (2.3 billion) ducks
    – 1,244 million (1.2 billion) pigs
    – 857 million rabbits
    – 691 million turkeys
    – 533 million geese
    – 515 million sheep
    – 345 million goats
    – 292 million cows and calves (for beef and veal)
    – 65 million other rodents (not including rabbits)
    – 63 million pigeons and other birds
    – 23 million buffalo
    – 4 million horses
    – 3 million donkeys and mules
    – 2 million camels (and other camelids)

    There is, by the laws of material nature a karmic reaction to this tidal wave of misery and death inflicted upon these innocent creatures.

    “To be nonviolent to human beings and to be a killer or enemy of the poor animals is Satan’s philosophy. In this age there is always enmity against poor animals, and therefore the poor creatures are always anxious. The reaction of the poor animals is being forced on human society, and therefore there is always strain of cold or hot war between men, individually, collectively or nationally.” A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, in Srimad-Bhagavatam (1.10.6)

  2. The reason meat is so cheap and abundant in the first place is because of massive corn-based grain subsidies. Nobody in the history of the world has ever demanded more meat than America. Air quality is very low in massive feedlots and all that manure concentrates and contaminates waterways. Greenhouse gasses are the least of our problems. I have nothing against eating meat in principle, but our current system of meat production has more negatives for society than positives.

  3. Anon> Save me your spiritualist mumbo-jumbo.

    You have 65 million rodents in that list. It seems to me you would prefer to have swarms of rats, pigeons, cockroaches and other vermin in the streets of our cities causing disease rather than not alive.

    Help we have to save the precious sewer rats!

    I do agree that factory farming is gross and animals shouldn't suffer needlessly in confinement pens.

    That being said, My grandfather had a dairy farm and eating cows and chickens freshly slaughtered is a way of life there. I still am going to eat steak and I know where it comes from.

  4. Hey Anon...you idiot:


    10/13/2009 05:04 PM

    Shot, Frozen and Burnt

    Sweden Turning Stray Rabbits Into Biofuel

    Stray rabbits are getting a raw deal in Sweden. Thousands of them
    living in the center of Stockholm are being culled, deep frozen and
    converted into biofuel for heating homes. Wildlife campaigners have
    criticized the practice.

    Thousands of rabbits, some of them pets abandoned by their owners, are
    being shot, deep-frozen and burned in a heating plant in Sweden, a
    professional hunter who works for the city of Stockholm said on

    The center of the Swedish capital is being plagued by thousands of
    rabbits, some of them wild and some of them stray pets, and 3,000 have
    been culled this year, down from 6,000 in 2008, Tommy Tuvunger, who
    hunts rodents for the Stockholm city administration, told SPIEGEL

    "We are shooting rabbits in Stockholm center, they are a very big
    problem," said Tuvunger. The rabbits are eating their way through the
    city's central parks. "Once culled, the rabbits are frozen and when we
    have enough; a contractor comes and takes them away. "

    Tuvunger said it was normal for animal carcasses to be processed for
    fuel. "The contractor doesn't just pick up rabbits, he also picks up
    cats, deer, horses and cows," said Tuvunger.

    Incinerated for Heating

    The frozen bunnies are shipped to a heating plant in Karlskoga in
    central Sweden which uses them as biofuel and incinerates them to heat
    homes, media reports said. A spokeswoman for the plant declined to
    comment. The plant's supplier, Konvex, a company that produces biofuels
    from animals, could not immediately be reached for comment.

    Konvex is a subsidiary of Danish group Daka Biodiesel, which says on
    its Web site that it produces and markets biodiesel and bio fuel oil
    using animal fat extracted from "by-products from slaughterhouses and
    primary agriculture."

    The practice of killing rabbits and incinerating has been criticized by
    Sweden's Society for the Protection of Wild Rabbits.

    "Those who support the culling of rabbits surely think it's good to use
    the bodies for a good cause. But it feels like they're trying to turn
    the animals into an industry rather than look at the main problem,"
    Anna Johannesson of the society told Vårt Kungsholmen newspaper, news
    Web site The Local reported

    Johannesson said there other methods of getting rid of rabbits besides
    killing them, such as spraying park plants with a chemical that makes
    them unappetizing to rabbits.

    But Tuvunger says that doesn't work. "If you do that you only move the
    problem 100 meters away."

    Karl Szmolinsky, one of Germany's best-known breeders who has won
    prizes for his giant rabbits, said he couldn't imagine using the
    animals for biofuel. "I would never have given mine away for that," he
    told SPIEGEL ONLINE. Szmolinsky, who gained fame for exporting several
    rabbits to North Korea, has given up breeding due to illness in the

  5. The first comment is based on a lie? You can't Murder animals. God people I know you are dumb down rocks but look up the meaning of the word murder. One human being killing another human being.

    The Greens lie about everything Look at he Glo-bull warming lie. Too many people were catching on it was scam so they change the name to Climate change. Sure you want to buy a bridge.

    People need to start thinking instead of following cults like the animal rights and eco liars.

    Did you hear about the GloBULL warming meeting that was cancel because of early freak snow storm. Come on people this is scam a lie and only a sucker would help to make Al Bore a billioniare. Search on Youtube you will find the truth about the GLOBULL warming scam is just another tax to screw the people over.

  6. Etherwind,

    our current system of meat production has more negatives for society than positives.

    Quite the calculation you've got there. Don't mind if I have a quick peek at the numbers to make sure there's no funny math in there, do ya?

    What's that, you say? You don't have any numbers? You're substituting your off-the-hip firing of your own opinion for some objective, scientific weighing of competing utility scales?

    You're totally full of shit, just like the average calculating socialist?

    Nooooooo, I don't believe it! Say it ain't so, chuck!