Thursday, August 23, 2012

The Great Compromise to Seat Paul Delegates Really Was a Deal to Kill Any Chance of Nomination

Jon Ward writes at HuffPo (My bold):
A Republican Party procedural committee on Wednesday moved to ensure that supporters of Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) would be unable to nominate the congressman from the floor of the GOP convention next week, but ultimately backed away from the measure.

Nonetheless, the deliberations signaled that the Republican Party and Mitt Romney's presidential campaign remain nervous to some degree about the potential for Paul supporters to disrupt the carefully scripted program for the four-day convention next week.

The Republican National Committee Rules Committee considered a motion to change the number of states a candidate needs to nominate him from the floor from five to 10. Paul supporters have captured a large number of delegate seats -- in a few cases the majority -- in at least seven states: Maine, Iowa, Minnesota, Nevada, Louisiana, Massachusetts, and Oregon.

However, a Paul insider told The Huffington Post that they have a majority of delegates only in three states.
So the great deal struck with the Romney camp insures, there won't be enough delegates to nominate Ron Paul from the floor.

Further, the delegate vote has been move from Wednesday to Monday, so that Paul delegates have as little time as possible to organize, and whatever happens, it can be long forgotten by the time of the coronation.

(ht Travis Holte)

12 comments:

  1. A rule from the seas:

    The Captain always goes down with the ship.

    The water economic waterline of the SS USA is about a foot beneath the deck.

    Maybe no Ron Paul election at this particular time is a good thing. Maybe it is best to be a tireless agitating minority who says, "I told you so. And I told you when."

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    1. Aye Aye, Gordo!

      Pin the tail on the donkey. (and the elephant, for that matter)

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    2. I hear you. Ever since last year I've been thinking that if RP actually wins this, it's only because TPTB have changed tactics, and are looking for a scapegoat.

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  2. with respect to Hunter and rest of the sixties freaks (excluding the Manson set)..."that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of old and evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn't need that. Our energy would simply prevail. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. So now, less than a year later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas (or Iowa, hey I know Iowa is a flat as pool table but we are waxing lyrical here) and look west, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark - that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.' Hunter S Thompson

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  3. This whole thing sickens me.

    After Ron Paul announced his intentions to run for President he should have come out swinging in full force. If he blasted Romney on his health care record and didn't let up--especially in public debates--then he could have dented him big time. If he took a militant approach and just kept repeating ad nauseum: "How can we nominate someone who socialized health insurance at a local level? How can we nominate someone who provided the master-plan for the biggest issue that we are campaigning against?" then perhaps Romney wouldn't have (as much) support. That would resonate with a lot of Americans. But no... Ron Paul played the "nice guy" and tried to run on an education platform. It failed.

    He should still be going 100 mph with the intention of taking the nomination, or at the very least he should try to delegitimize the Republican party to the point of complete self-destruction. He should not concede anything, and should urge his supporters and delegates to disrupt the convention as much as possible. This will give the election to Obama you say?

    Who. Fucking. Cares.

    Ron Paul has failed.

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    1. That's what the other candidates did, and it failed. Opposition to Obamacare is not the issue that defined Ron Paul's candidacy.

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    2. I'm having trouble making sense of this post. Ron Paul may have a majority of delegates in only three states, but it only takes a plurality to place a name in nomination. What Romney doesn't want is an unscripted convention, and he's worried that the nominating and seconding speeches will be too seriously substantive for the occasion so they appear to be trying to work out a compromise of ending their delegates challenges to Ron Paul in some states in exchange for Paul's name not being formally placed into nomination. The delegates could still vote for Ron Paul. This deal would probably mean more delegate votes for Paul but no speeches that could, potentially, be critical of Mitt Romney. As far as I can tell, however, nothing has been finalized.

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  4. Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito.

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  5. Ron would not survive if nominated and then elected. TPTB would not allow it. He chose to live and keep educating. Being a dead martyr doesn't help your wife and kids much.

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    1. This.

      They tried to get Reagan (Remember Hinkley? Note that he did NO jail time), and he's 1% of Ron Paul.

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  6. I'm constantly amazed by people who are libertarians who think that this can be solved from the top down. D.C. is what it is because the majority of people WANT it to be so, or they're willing to put up with the violation of their own rights in order to get the violation of the rights of others. You can't change that with an election. You change that by changing people's minds. The goal isn't just to beat Obama or beat Romney but to get people to see them for what they are and not WANT someone like Obama or Romney.

    The best method for showing people this is open for discussion, but Dr. Paul being true to himself and doing it his way is the only way which rings true. His veracity is what makes him compelling. Take away that and you take away his chief weapon.

    And I agree, if he were to actually be elected he'd get the CIA treatment which would put his life, or the lives of his family, in terrible peril. The military industrial congressional complex has way too much plunder going on to let anything change substantially.

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    1. Who exactly wanted the NDAA to pass? Or the Patriot Act? Last I checked, those were drawn up in secret. A majority of Americans don't even know what politicians are doing. Debate someone and you'll find they regurgitate the same talking points their leaders on Fox and MSNBC are saying. Watch Peter Schiff debate the Occupy movement. Some of those people are literally walking zombies.

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