[T]wo local St. Louis sources that police Officer Darren Wilson suffered facial fractures during his confrontation with deceased 18 year-old Michael Brown. Officer Wilson clearly feared for his life during the incident that led to the shooting death of Brown...Local St. Louis sources said Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket.”I guess it is possible that the broken eye socket occurred the way The Pundit is reporting, but there is a question in mind as to when his socket was broken and by whom.
Yesterday, I posted a video that shows Wilson immediately after he shot Brown. There is no indication in the video that Wilson feels any discomfort on his face. He is seen looking at Brown's body and pacing. Again, I guess it is possible that it went down the way The Pundit reports, but I would think Wilson would in some way be reaching up to his eye if there was a fracture.
The video is here.
-RW
As you Wenzel, I'm skeptical of this report and it's timing. Leviathan sees that releasing the robbery video didn't silence it's critics like it was hoping for.
ReplyDeleteI would caution everyone against jumping to conclusions and overthinking how the initial situation unfolded in Ferguson.
ReplyDeleteFull disclosure first. My wife is a prosecuting attorney in the county in which we reside. Now before everyone brands us as the paramount oppressors of our fellow man, let me say that:
1. Most of the crimes dealt with at the county level are driving while intoxicated, domestic violence, violent crime, and burglary.
2. We really do not care so much about drug possession, but do care about drug dealing, as I don't want drug dealers trying to hook my kids on drugs.
3. The events that have unfolded subsequent to the initial shooting were not handled very well, and like most on this blog, we have a serious problem with the militarization of the domestic policing organizations.
I say this so as not to be dismissed out of hand (though I'm sure that could still occur) for the following:
The narrative Brown supporters and much of the media are pushing runs counter to the witness statements, which are starting to trickle out. When you here that there are "conflicting" statements, the only conflicting statement is that given by Dorian Johnson, Michael Brown's friend who was party to the confrontation. Any testimony he gives should be weighed in light of this.
It has been suggested on this blog that Brown may have actually paid for the cigars. It has also been stated that the proprietor of the store did not call in the theft and altercation. and that this suggests that maybe the incident did not really occur.
Mr Johnson's attorney has reported to the press that Mr. Brown told the FBI that they indeed did steal the cigars in question. It would also not be terribly surprising that businesses do not call the police for every little theft and incident that occurs. These businesses are stolen from continuously, and since no one was seriously hurt, I can see not reporting it. While one may disagree as to whether or not it should have been called in, I wouldn't postulate that the incident could not have occurred because of the lack of a report. It should be also noted that customers did, in fact, call the police to report the entire incident.
Mr. Johnson's statement claims that the officer tried to grab Brown and pull him into the car through the window. I'm sorry, but that just doesn't pass the sniff test. Brown was a very large man, and it would make no sense for the officer, who was likely belted in, to grab up and try to pull him down through the window.
Now you are being unclear and distorting facts. "It has been suggested on this blog that Brown may have actually paid for the cigars." A commenter may have made that suggestion but nowhere have I made that suggestion in a post. I consider the likelihood that Brown paid for the cigars near zero.
DeleteBob,
DeleteI apologize if I attributed that comment to you. I simply read it here. I certainly do not intend to distort any facts.
Again, my apologies.
My wife has heard that the incident went down as follows (and this should be able to be substantiated by timelines, if true):
ReplyDeleteAfter robbing the store, Brown and Johnson were observed walking down the middle of the street by Officer Wilson. He approached in his car and asked them to move from the middle of the street. After a brief verbal encounter, which is reported to have been slightly heated (mostly Brown and Johnson telling Wilson to F off), Wilson began to pull away. It was then that the call came through describing the robbery suspects as a large black male and a short black male. Realizing that these may be the guys, Wilson backs up and attempts to exit his vehicle. Brown, likely realizing what is about to go down, slams Wilson's door shut twice as Wilson attempts to exit. It is likely, and certainly more plausible, that Brown at this time leans into the car and begins to wrestle with, and assault,Wilson. I would note that because of the video we now know that Brown was in fact a violent individual, and not the sweet college bound youth that he was initially portrayed to be.
If the officers weapon discharged in the vehicle, as alleged by the officer, evidence should bear that out. At this point if Brown tried to flee after having attempted to shoot Wilson with his own gun, it would be justified for Wilson to take him into custody. We also now know that Brown was not shot in the back, as Dorian Johnson attested to. If Brown attempted to bum rush Wilson after having previously already having tried to batter and/or kill him, Wilson is justified in shooting him dead.
Now, this is only a scenario, and it may not, in fact be true. But it is certainly more plausible than posturing that an officer, who had no previous complaints ever filed against him, just rolled up and decided to shoot Brown dead because he was a black guy. I mean, why not Johnson too, if that were the case?
Finally, this blog post postures that Wilson may be lying about his injuries because he does not appear and act injured on the video. Wilson would have had so much adrenaline pumping through him at that point that it would not surprise me at all if he didn't even realize the extent of his injuries, if he indeed sustained them. Again, easy enough to substantiate by the photographs taken. Unless it is going to be suggested that maybe he had some fellow officers tune him up in order to fake the injuries. Again, possible, but not really plausible.
Just my opinion...
"Now, this is only a scenario, and it may not, in fact be true. But it is certainly more plausible than posturing that an officer, who had no previous complaints ever filed against him, just rolled up and decided to shoot Brown dead because he was a black guy. I mean, why not Johnson too, if that were the case?"
DeleteWhile I am not normally inclined to side with one sympathetic (or in this case a spouse) of a county,state, or federal prosecutor the above is an interesting and indeed important point.
"Wilson would have had so much adrenaline pumping through him at that point that it would not surprise me at all if he didn't even realize the extent of his injuries, if he indeed sustained them."
That is indeed a possibility. While the continued militarization of the police is in my opinion inexcusable I have personally held off on placing judgement on any of the participants until tempers cool and a proper examination of the evidence is forthcoming.