President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said, according to CBS News TechTalk.
It's [the Commerce Department] "the absolute perfect spot in the U.S. government" to centralize efforts toward creating an "identity ecosystem" for the Internet, White House Cybersecurity Coordinator Howard Schmidt said.
The Obama administration is currently drafting what it's calling the National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace, which U.S. Commerce Secretary Gary Locke said will be released by the president in the next few months.
CBS goes on, "We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said at the Stanford event. "We are not talking about a government-controlled system. What we are talking about is enhancing online security and privacy and reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities."
Don't believe this for a nanosecond.
According to CBS, Schmidt stressed that anonymity and pseudonymity will remain possible on the internet. "I don't have to get a credential if I don't want to," he said. There's no chance that "a centralized database will emerge," and "we need the private sector to lead the implementation of this," he said.
The anonymity under this program, mark my words, will be the phony "freedom option" that the government now always uses when they want to take away some of your freedoms. It is all part of the 'nudge' philosophy of the White House adviser and evil puppet master, Cass Sunstein.
What they do is 'nudge' you in the direction they want you to go in and offer a phony distasteful alternative. I was among the first to warn about this in relation to TSA body scanning versus the "groping" option. It looks like it's coming to internet ID. It's not clear how they will do it, but the default for most of the internet will be the ID option. The opt-out anonymity option will be difficult and distasteful, that's how government works when Cass Sunstein gets involved. For all practical purposes, internet anonymity will be gone.
Jesus, what the fuck is happening to this country? Is this for real?
ReplyDelete"Jesus, what the fuck is happening to this country? Is this for real?"
ReplyDeleteTry to remain calm. A team of Medication Officers will be arriving at your door momentarily.
For 99% of people, anonymity on Internet does not exist already. You have to be very skilled and dedicated to be truly anonymous.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, this ID will open new great possibilities for identity theft and fraud.
Any identity theft and fraud benefits will be greatly minimized by your loss of privacy and the new government control over you.
DeletePeople willing to trade their freedom for security deserve neither and will lose both.
Fly under the radar and do everything through US mail, Money order or cash, do both business payments or cash in person. Use no credit cards, intrnet or ATM, just go back to the 1950's way of life, there is not much private the government can know about you when you live this way.
ReplyDeleteAnd then, the opt out will be jerked away,too. Remember, a Social Security number wasn't mandatory for ID and then it suddenly was? Trying filing your tax return, getting a driver's license, obtaining ANY "entitlement," getting any credit, opening a brokerage account, getting a passport, without it now, sucker.
ReplyDeleteyes duh, the US government wants a fascist total control state
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous:
ReplyDeleteYou're gonna have to change your name.
Welcome to the Reich. Hell, the Nazis WISHED they had this kind of control.
My prediction: within 24 hours of its "roll-out," at least one hacker will figure out a workaround.
ReplyDeleteAside from our social engineering government accessing and monitoring ALL your internet activities, imagine what will happen when someone hacks into the Internet ID database. Talk about identity theft...!
ReplyDeleteThe government ruins everything.
ReplyDeleteBible prophecy talks about a second beast (U.S.A.) made in the image of the first beast (Rome) enforcing the mark of the beast. Everything in scripture/prophecy will come to pass. You can't have central control without a central database to control it. Read the King James Bible (av 1611) and do not accept the mark of the beast.... be sealed with the Holy Spirit ... and keep the commandments of God .. all of them .. Remember to keep the Sabbath Day Holy... Blessings to you in these last days.
ReplyDeleteI just can't believe shit like this goes down in a supposedly "free" country. Fuck Cass Sunstein. I hate that son of a bitch.
ReplyDelete"We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said. Oh really? Let me worry about remembering passwords.
ReplyDeleteThis paves the way for taxing online purchases and tracking online spending. I wonder how long it will take the government to connect your online ID with your GPS coordinates from the 2010 Census data?
ReplyDeleteSo we have another privacy infringement proposed based on the 9/11 attacks – which still have not been fully explained by any means.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile the gov't supposedly of the people, for the people, and er...by the peoople, wants, yay demands, complete secrecy/privacy and nearly worshipful trust in it's doings while they also will demand we pay them for these additional, unsolicited and costly "services", while the same said gov't is openly bankrupt, both morally and financially, and has shown no desire nor inclination to track or monitor or govern itself by the same expectations and laws imposed on it's citizenery.
And if you'll notice, most gov't programs, once initiated, seem to never go away, no matter how outlived their usefulness.
Oh well, wait'll nobody will finance these fine folks' plans any more. What a sad time we've come to.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Who watches the watchers?)
You know why they need the private sector to implement this?
ReplyDeleteBecause then they can BUY the tracking information and it won't be an invasion of privacy. Just like with cell tower tracking info and domestic spying of wire communications.
F'ing fascism, wrapped in a flag.
Robert,thanks for the heads up on the nascent Tyranny.
ReplyDeleteTo my fellow Libertarian Patriots:
Pray like it all depends upon God & His Christ.
Act like it all depends upon us standing in Liberty !
The LORD's will isn't that we live under Tyranny - he will overthrow all tyrants who oppose him, see Psalm 2.
The only question is : Who is on the LORD's side, see Psalm 1.
(Have God & his glory as a motivation; not an excuse !)
This is what the Colonial Patriots did; they made & lived by two declarations:
1) "No King, but King Jesus" cried the Sons of Liberty.
2) "... For the firm support of this Declaration, we pledge our lives, our fortunes & our SACRED honor...."
And so must WE !
Sic Semper Tyrannus....
Patriots meet here: www.ChuckBaldwinLive.com
Latter day 'Sons of Liberty' meet here:
www.ChuckBaldwinLive.com
How many voter registrations do I get with each online personality created?
ReplyDeleteBy the way, to modify the otherwise insightful saying 'Thebes' signed off with:
ReplyDelete"When Fascism comes to America, it will be carrying a Bible, wrapped in a Flag."
I say this because the vast majority of American Christians (pastors too, Catholic or Evangelical) are totally duped about their genuine duties to God & (once or IF they KNOW those) their resultant unalienable rights flowing from Him !
They think the .gov gives them their rights - and thus the .gov as the mistaken 'creator' of their 'Civil Rights; can steal / usurp / repeal or modify them at will.
They don't serve Christ or Truth, they serve Molech, headquartered Mordor on the Potomac, their state capitol & their fickle hearts.
Gosh, this is scary stuff. Get ready for a struggle of Biblical proportions. I'll start fighting it on my knees in prayer, so that Wisdom will guide the battle.
These .gov guys are playing for keeps, you can bet me & my house will be too ----- how about you all ?
Samuel Adams, Jr.
Texas Sons of Liberty
One guest said "Jesus, what the fuck is happening to this country? Is this for real?"
ReplyDeleteAnother subscriber said "F'ing fascism, wrapped in a flag."
And I who lived 50 years under Commies say this:
It's KGB at its best, fellows!
It seems that those who love comparing such things with fascism have forgotten the full name of the party of those whom they call "fascists": NSDAP, which is an abbreviation of "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" which means "The National SOCIALIST German Workers' Party."
Did you pay attention? SOCIALIST Workers' Party!
Soviet Commies are also SOCIALIST. The only difference is that Soviet (and other) Commies are INTERNATIONAL Socialists, not National ones. Socialists anyway...
The us government will be in the very near future the better Nazi regime. Exchange the Statue of Liberty againt a Statue of Hitler. Europe is in the shit, US as well, because of FED and politicians, but what should us worry even more is the trend towards George Orwells vision. We will be controlled at any place at any time. Brain washing of the mass is going on for a long time. Such a guy gets a prize of Nobel!?
ReplyDeleteTo Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteYour prediction that within 24 hrs from the roll out some hacker will have figured out a workaround may be true, but you can bet the people coming up with this system already have a workaround for themselves.
"We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said.
ReplyDeleteNo, we're talking about INTERNATIONAL ID, now.
World government, anyone?
The gate welcoming Americans to their neighborhood gulag will not be sporting the Arbeit Macht Frei greeting. The American greeting will remind us that "It Is All For The Children."
ReplyDeleteAs the saying goes: "Whenever there's an action, there's a reaction", there's no technology created by man that could not be cracked or circumnavigated by man. Any code can be broken or reverse engineered - tis the pure fact. So, fear not!
ReplyDeleteThere's no chance that "a centralized database will emerge," ... he said.
ReplyDeleteHmmm... why is it that every time I hear a government official say something won't happen I feel the urge to bet it will?
@Anonymous
ReplyDelete24? Try 12.
Government power never contracts.
ReplyDeleteThank you for your thoughts regarding our new internet ID system. Since all the comments here are extremely positive, we will be accelerating the time schedule and will not even bother with the silly opt-out thingy.
ReplyDeleteWill this type of 'registration' be tatooed on your forehead? Joking of course, but when ID theft of the new registration becomes commonplace, how many innocent internet users will be arrested? Does this mean the end of porn when the govt knows who watches? Now that ought to drive some folks to really oppose this new reg.
ReplyDeleteUh... hey Obumbler... don't we need a czar to control the other czars?
ReplyDeleteGet this fascist Obama and all his ilk out of office pronto. This is downright f***ing sick and repulsive. Are we the new version of the Soviet Union? All of us need to contact our representatives and tell them to leave the internet alone! It should be a free domain of ideas, without any so-called identity system. The free market can regulate itself. The internet has been around long enough, while thriving, WITHOUT government intervention. Only the Nazis would want to identify their own people like this. LEAVE US ALONE!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWhat's next? A counter in your ass to count how many times a day you take a dump?! This is pathetic, ridiculous, and absolutely juvenile! When will these busy bodies in government stop trying to impress us with their damn unremitting ignorance? When will they cease and desist with always thinking they have to do something in their idle time? Can't they just go home, stay out of D.C., that bastion of corruption, and think about more creative options on how to make this a truly 'free' country? Idiots, idiots, idiots. Get this Obama freak out of office. He's a disgrace just like all the other insane bureaucrats like him. Obama doesn't charm me anymore one bit! I hope they read this one at the Commerce Department, those damn Bolsheviks!
ReplyDeleteIn fact, the only "ID" portion of this is linking your Ethernet MAC address to your name, since those addresses are item specific. This will already get to at least the level of household/business. Data mining gets the rest.
ReplyDeleteFirst Obama is a socialist (left end of the political spectrum), now he's guilty of easing in a fascist government (right end of the political spectrum). I think everyone is just a little too reactionary and fearful. You want live in the woods and shoot anyone who comes within 100 feet of your land? That's the type of America your forefathers envisioned?
ReplyDeleteThe state knows the internet is a threat so they have to shut it down. I'm hoping that the dollar collapse will also collapse the state.
ReplyDeleteWhy is everyone so jumpy, upset and shocked by the prospects of a world gov't. This is a piece of cake, man. Hey, more Christians have been martyred in the last century than in all the others since Messiah FIRST came. Exception: the western world. Moslems are burning churches in Egypt. They are hacking limbs with sabres.(did you know the Catholic Church started the Moslem faith?) The "great whore" is the economic and religious system of the last days which will become the same the world over.
ReplyDeleteNo, the time to be afraid will be when they say, "peace and safety", esp. to an Israelite, because then sudden destruction comes. We are not yet in the time of the events of the book of Revelation, and the United States are not in bible prophecy. What will mark the beginning of the Tribulation or the Day of the Lord is the signing of a peace treaty between Israel and AntiChrist and he isn't even on the scene yet.
Why is everyone so jumpy, upset and shocked by the prospects of a world gov't. This is a piece of cake, man. Hey, more Christians have been martyred in the last century than in all the others since Messiah FIRST came. Exception: the western world. Moslems are burning churches in Egypt. They are hacking limbs with sabres.(did you know the Catholic Church started the Moslem faith?) The "great whore" is the economic and religious system of the last days which will become the same the world over.
ReplyDeleteNo, the time to be afraid will be when they say, "peace and safety", esp. to an Israelite, because then sudden destruction comes. We are not yet in the time of the events of the book of Revelation, and the United States are not in bible prophecy. What will mark the beginning of the Tribulation or the Day of the Lord is the signing of a peace treaty between Israel and AntiChrist and he isn't even on the scene yet.
This is just another step toward ubiquitous computing. It's forging another link in the chain that will enslave us.
ReplyDeleteA U.S. Army War College report (http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pdffiles/ksil468.pdf) lays it out pretty well. It's been speculated that Sen. McCain borrowed some of the ideas discussed in this report for his "secret strategy" for capturing Bin Laden.
As its summary states, the report explains how the Government could use new identification technologies "to achieve dramatic victories in the Global War on Terrorism...." But it continues with this: "The bad news is that these same technologies may be inherently inimical to the future of privacy and American civil liberties. They could transform our nation and others into surveillance societies, concentrating in the hands of central governments levers of control
without parallel in human history....[Will the technologies secure] the United States against potentially cataclysmic attacks, or will they subvert the very interests and values at the core of all we seek to defend?"
I hope you all are spending as much time writing to your senators and representatives as you are on writing on these sites. Whether that works or not doesn't matter, they aren't all evil, many are not in the know, but they need to be flooded with mail, emails etc. regardless. It only takes a very small percentage of the population to turn the tide and the tide is turning- why do you think they are pushing these through so fast and furious? That was my red flag, i was sound asleep snoring!! until this fall when I noticed that things were happening way to fast-so I started researching online and I am WIDE AWAKE now. Remember, flood their gates, let them know that we know.
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ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
First Obama is a socialist (left end of the political spectrum), now he's guilty of easing in a fascist government (right end of the political spectrum). I think everyone is just a little too reactionary and fearful. You want live in the woods and shoot anyone who comes within 100 feet of your land? That's the type of America your forefathers envisioned?
January 11, 2011 9:17 AM
I appreciate your spot on political savvy. He's a socialist, and our system is as much Fascist as Socialist - that would be abhorrent to our Colonial forebears.
BTW, by Fascism I mean where corporations effectively partner with Governement to dominate markets (we have only the residue of a freemarket system, the substance is gone), and either outlaw or regulate to death most small businesses.
The huge corporate donors are writing law - witness the recent Food Safety Bill - what a scam, a domination of personal, private & family perogatives in our food choices, now mandated to be outlawed !
It's time for civil disobedience on a wider scale than ever before - voting is vain as Congress under either dominant party keeps passing injustice masquerading as 'safety' for the sheeple.
But to your last comment: Come on now, we're not rednecks.
We want to be in charge of our lives, liberty & property. We want the rule of Law, according to a Natural Law & Judeo / Christian Ethical basis, exactly as the Declaration of Independence states it: "....the Laws of Nature & of Nature's God...".
Doubtless, you'll have to dust off your copy of the Declaration, but if you have the courage, please note the context of:
"Unalienable Rights endowed by their Creator..."
NOT phony 'civil rights' inherited by monkeys via Darwinstic determinism or bestowed by elites !
"Government governs by consent of the governed..."
NOT by having bought & paid for political whores & Chicago Inner city thugs & their intellectual ivory tower revolutionaries shove them thru the fickle Congress & down our throats.
This government today are devoted to warring against these historical Truths, these rights which came directly from our Christian Heritage such as: (Lex Rex overturned the Divine right of Kings, paving the way for the unique American idea of Rule of Law, protecting Citizen sovereigns like you & I....)
I say all this on the "Internet ID Card" comment area to help encourage others to grasp the Truth that their impulse to defend their rights is in accordance with the highest Principles of Justice, and that God is honored when we take a Principled stand.
I wish more professed Christians would be this bold - maybe more dialogue along these lines will help.
If you study the Colonial Era immediately preceeding the Revolution, you'll discover that the Patriot Pulpit played a key role in resisting Tyranny by preaching Liberty from God's Word.
A similar movement is growing as we speak.....
Samuel Adams, Jr.
Sons of Liberty / Texas
Anonymous comments "First Obama is a socialist (left end of the political spectrum), now he's guilty of easing in a fascist government (right end of the political spectrum). I think everyone is just a little too reactionary and fearful."
ReplyDeleteActually, these are both on the left end. Ron Paul identifies this combination as 'corporatism', which is an alliance between business and government. The government is socialist, and the corporations are facist. But unlike pure socialism where the government owns and controls corporations, facist corporations are privately owned, and are aligned with government to achieve it's socialist goals. Hence, there is no pendulum swinging between extremes. The net result is socialism which provides a level of capitalist incentive to corporations which are restricted to being rewarded and to profiting from supporting and strengthening the socialist government. Very powerful and very dangerous. It's the ultimate 'company store'.
I believe we are all in for a time of being controlled by a One World Gov. that will control all that we do. They have already set up the scanning devices in many countries that read a chip that is either in the head, or the back of the hand. Believe me, the trails of this have been going on for many years. it was first introduced in the chip being planted into our animals. This was only the steps taken to work out the kinks before it is implanted into humans. Prophecy is unfolding before our eyes everyday. Let us all be ready for that great and awesome day, when the Lord will avenge the works of iniquity, and bring forth a world of true peace and freedom. Let us not walk in fear, but in great excitement of what the Lord is about to do. If you walk in fear of the things that are coming, then it is evident that you have never surrendered to the one that has all things under his control and power. Today , this very moment, is the time to do just that; surrender your heart to Christ, and trust in the blood of the lamb, that will deliver all those who believe from the final hour that is meant for the sons of diobedience.
ReplyDeleteThere is probably only one man in our country today with the character, dignity, knowledge, and scholarship to lead us ALL in the direction toward a moral and righteous America. His name is Ron Paul. If we could simply protect him from being lampooned by a merciless, stupid, and psychotic press, we would all see the benefit of greater freedom and moral clarity, rather than being ruled by corrupt gangsters, including the Commerce Department (trying to institute this foolish Internet ID) and more importantly, the secretive cabal of crooks that rules the Federal Reserve. "End the Fed!" We have not lived in a true republic since 1913. Anyone who knows his history knows this Truth.
ReplyDeleteHow could Ron Paul NOT have become president already? Probably he is too honorable. He would clean up this mess if we gave him the chance. What's wrong with America? When people abroad think of the American Dream, and everything that is supposed to be right about this country - its inherent freedoms, liberties, and stance against tyranny - they invariably think, all over the world, that Ron Paul says it right. Believe me - they don't think about the Commerce Department subverting our freedoms like Nazis with a National Internet ID Card! I hate politics, I hate politicians, I hate ALL those repugnant bureaucrats who want to destroy the last vestiges of what is right and good about America. Yet, in spite of this, I think Ron Paul is an honorable American.
ReplyDeleteSo what will the Citizens do about this??? Just accept it? like a bunch of Cows walkin steadily towards the Slaughterhouse?? Please tell me we are not all Coward like that!
ReplyDeleteUnderstand that be the Democrats or the Republicans in control, not one of them respects your claim to privacy. They are attemting to build a "revolution proof" society, where those who are deemed enemies of the state can be easily tracked down and apprehended. Their goal is to make it virtually impossible to exist day-today without obtaining ID. This is not Obama's plane. He is merely doing as he is being instructed to. He's a company man.
ReplyDeleteAKA the Patriot Act... you could probably just add it to that legislation... This was all originally GW Bush's idea. You are all just too retarded to see it.
ReplyDeletefreedoms child was born today singing freedoms song, (B.J.Shaver), count me out~!! wanna buy a good computer...enough of this communist regime
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