Sunday, July 10, 2011

FireDogLake Just Announced Support for Ron Paul

The left-wing web site FireDogLake has this post from a blogger. He doesn't mention Ron Paul by name, but his view of the current situation and his solution is completely Ron Paul-like
The budget (for FY 2012) of the U.S. is approximately $3.7 trillion. Revenues taken in are approximately 2.2 trillion leaving a current budget deficit of approximately $1.5 trillion. Of that, approximately $2.4 trillion is for mandatory or non-discretionary spending and $1.3 trillion for discretionary spending. The mandatory spending includes Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Income Security programs, and the interest on the National Debt. Discretionary spending includes the budget for all federal agencies including the massive budget for the Department of Defense and all associated security and intelligence programs that keep us safe from Terrorists.

Let’s do the math: the proposal that will probably win the poker game is a $2 trillion dollar reduction package over ten years. That’s $200 billion per year. Assuming the deficit stays at $1.3 trillion or more, considering the $200 billion annual reduction, the ten year deficit, added to the current $16 trillion plus (after they raise the debt ceiling) would still add up to about $13 trillion. Therefore in ten years the national debt would be about $29 trillion notwithstanding future additional outlays.

Put bluntly, this poker game ain’t shit. It will do virtually nothing in the scheme of things to change our deficit or debt problems. The whole thing appears to be a scam to start the ball rolling on reducing our entitlement programs. A bipartisan approach as directed by the national and international central bankers to take down the domestic programs of this country just as is being done in other western countries.

Look what they’re trying to do. The discretionary budget is hard to reduce unless DOD, Security and Intelligence are cut and they’re aren’t going to do that. Total non-defense, security and intelligence budgets are in the neighborhood of $400 billion and they’ve been continually cut for the last twenty years. The percentage that can be cut at this point is very small. They can’t cut the interest on the national debt (approximately $260 billion) because the bankers run the place. That leaves Social Security ($720 billion), Medicare ($460 billion), Medicaid ($275 billion), and the Income Security programs ($580 billion), totaling about $2 trillion per year. Where else are they going to cut if they don’t cut Defense, Security, and Intelligence programs?

The Social Security and Medicare programs take in revenue via taxes, which is why they’re called “Entitlement” programs. Citizens are entitled to those benefits because they paid taxes to receive them. Both programs run relatively small deficits and could use tweaking, but certainly aren’t the primary reason for the budget deficit and definitely not the reason for the large national debt. The only reason the oligarchy is trying to go after these programs is to eventually privatize the programs and increase the wealth of the ruling elite. There is no other reason because the citizens pay taxes that pay for these programs.

We’re not sure yet what the $2-4 trillion dollar package that will be agreed upon by our democratic political representatives will include. But it has to include major cuts to the “Income Security Programs” or the “Entitlements programs” or both because there just isn’t room for enough reductions without including defense, security, and intelligence programs. Those programs are estimated to be as much as $1.2 to 1.5 trillion per year, as much or more than Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid combined.

We have a huge problem with the national budget. The national debt is another thing. We a lot of money but who do we owe it to? The Constitution of the United States does not mention that this country must borrow money at interest from private individuals in order to run this country. But that is what we do.

Unlike most countries, federal law requires Congress to authorize the government to borrow any money that is needed to pay for the programs Congress has passed. As the national debt has grown, the Treasury has periodically bumped against the debt limit or debt ceiling, as it is doing now.

The Federal Reserve System has to go. It is a private bank run by private investors. American citizens can’t even get in on the deal.

The Federal Reserve Act stipulates that the stock of the Federal Reserve Banks cannot be bought or sold on any stock exchange. It is passed on by inheritance as the fortune of the “big rich”. Almost half of the owners of Federal Reserve Bank stock are not Americans.

The Empire has to go as well. This country is not spending $1.2 to 1.5 trillion per year to keep citizens safe from terrorists, that is a big lie. This country is a military Empire just as the Roman Empire. And just as the Roman Empire, this country as we know it is going to go down if we don’t stop U.S. imperialism. The overall welfare of the citizens of this country is going to continue to plummet if we don’t stop this inane human madness.

The entire discussion of what cuts to make and how to bring the national debt and budget deficit under control is missing the point. The two major problems facing the entire planet are what we need to address, the international central banking system and the United States military Empire. If not, the rich will continue to get richer and the poor will continue to increase with no safety nets to help.


  1. I wish FDL and HuffPo would give Ron more credibility by name. Unfortunately, HuffPo is especially filled with sheep-like partisans that think all of the Republicans are regressive racists that want to enslave the poor.

  2. Robert, have you considered integrated the Disqus commenting system into your blog? It encourages much more discussion between your community, including allowing replies with an email notification, and then users can simply reply to the email. As you are probably aware, the more comments on your blog the better you'll do with SEO.

  3. Their leade's short term opportunism will win out over the rank and file's sense.

  4. Constitutionally, legislatively, and morally, Ron Paul has no equal. His 22 year voting record speaks for itself.
    Mr. Paul has not survived in politics for 22 years and maintain the ethics and morality he has by being anything other than stellar.
    If You refute the above comment, then I please invite You to listen to him speak about key issues. It is amazing how well he comes across because he doesn’t have to remember lies like other politicians. He understands what is happening in the world and knows how to apply the basic principles of liberty to achieve the real change that America so desperately deserves.
    American to American we are all on the same team. So I present Mr. Ron Paul as my Candidate for 2011 and invite anybody to meaningfully and respectfully debate why he is not the best for American and its people in 2012.
    Ron Paul = A real change, not for special interest, but for America’s Interests!
    Thank You for Your time
    Ron Paul 2012

  5. Let me take score here- Paul already has the anarchists and the drug addicts to which he adds the communists and socialists now. If it weren't for the bulk of his supporters, he might have a chance at the White House.

  6. Gov. Gary Johnson & Ron Paul have moved me to the paleolibertarian side of politics...WarBama is a ruse for the bankers, and DIMS VS RIPS is killing this country. Let's vote for personal freedom.

  7. WarBama the ruse has convinced me that paleolibertarians must move Amerika forward...classic DIMS VS> RIPS is killing liberty. Please look into Gov Gary Johnson...Dr. Ron Paul has my vote in addition to Gary 'end empire' Johnson.

  8. Anon...I mean Asshole at 450pm- you say that like it's a bad thing!

  9. Morons will be morons. Stop talking about cutting this program and that program, and not cutting this one or that one. F**k that crap - cut all of them 20% immediately, including the bloated defense budget. Defense will not even miss it. This means 20% pay cuts (no working fewer hours, no working OT to make up the difference - if I can take a 30% pay cut in my private industry job the goobermint maggots can sure as hell take a 20% cut). Put in a 10 year hiring freeze - reduce goobermint by attrition. If you have a contract to build 100 fighters, that just became a contract to build 80 fighters.

    Raise taxes on EVERYONE 10%. I can afford it and so can the rest of the stingy, selfish assholes that we hear whining about higher taxes. Raise the SS payroll tax to 8% and make the program robust for the next 100 years. Eventually as the boomers die off, the program will have a surplus. The payroll tax has paid for a good chunk of the tax cuts for rich people and corporations over the past 40 years.


  10. Yep, Anonymous, morons are morons. Like in "everybody who calls for more taxes".

    Even if you are a statist, go google "Laffer curve" to understand why increasing taxes is a supremely idiotic idea.

  11. Raise taxes on EVERYONE 10%.

    Hmmmm- I don't think you speak for the rest of us, but if you'd like to personally sign your paycheck to the gov't to help pay down the debt go right ahead. With just over $150 trillion in unfunded mandates, I have every confidence it shouldn't take a generous fella like yourself more than a few hours to come up with that kind of dough.

    P.S. And Dale- yes I speak of Paul's supporters as largely a detriment to his chances and you're proving me correct.

  12. anon@12:12

    Thats the way for political success, raise taxes and cut spending. Why aren't aren't you offering up that extra 10% anyway since its an 'emergency' and frankly I can take being called a stingy asshole if it keeps my cash out of the hands of the DC Gang.

    (Incidentally, using the fighter example above, there would be contract for 0 fighters as the current batch of fighters is quite good enough)

  13. Anon @ 12:12 AM:

    Read the Ron Paul work, Liberty Defined.

    Grasp that a centralized, Federal Government was Never, Ever, designed in the history of the world, to provide for it's citizens, all that their own individual efforts could, when combined with an embracing of the Moral Law, via their self-government.

    That is, the 10 Commandments and their Equity - which is to say, their essence that transcends time, epoch or language.

    Ron Paul is saying if an action is wrong & immoral for an individual, it is wrong for a 'leader', too.

    Wrong for private groups, Wrong for 'governments', too. Perfectly logical & moral.

    Also perfectly Biblical, as it demands that "All men are Equal Before the Law" - no nobility or supra legal body of elites may govern society.

    Not a new idea, the idea of a Monarch voluntarily limiting his own powers is at least 3,000 years old, from the original limited Republic, Israel.

    See Deuteronomy 17:14-20 for the exact record. It outlines vividly how the King in Israel was to conduct himself - he began his reign by writing out with his own hand a copy of the Law (think: Declaration & Constitution), under an oath to uphold it, commanded by God to keep himself humble and read it every day to make sure he was keeping it.

    Gosh, in our political realm, there is only one true Statesman who fits that model, Ron Paul is his name. Most of the others are pure pretenders.

    It's the Humanist premises in your comment that suppose that men are fit to govern other men, free of moral restraint, and will do so with wisdom, charity & efficiency: You assume a humanist / utilitarian worldview which has actually birthed the mess we now enjoy. You're Alexander Hamiltons stepchild, unwittingly !

    It's is the Founding Fathers formula of 'Christian Self-Government', that comports with the Moral Law, which binds all men, all nations, at all times, universally, that Dr. Ron Paul has been supporting & proving works for 30 + years in DC.

    He's a modern political Prophet / re-Founding Father - and not a moment too late.

    No elevating him to Savior, of course, just pointing out that his stand upon Principle is so distinct, so exemplary that we may use it as a bit of a compass, to help us find our True North.

    This frees us up from having to dice up %'s with how much SS & Medicaid should be funded versus DOD & endless war $$$. The whole mess is evil & needs be discarded.

    In fact, out of control social spending here & war abroad, they're intimately connected: bread, circuses & somnolent disease management on the domestic side / resource procurement via endless war & aggression on the other side.

    Both are a virtual worshipping of Caesar as God, a repudiation of the virtue inherited from the Founders.

    23 empires have come & gone in world history - and we will follow their ignominious example if we don't repent 180 degrees.

    Our entire family will work to help elect Ron Paul and forward his ideas of Liberty (top down reform), and continue to obey God & the moral Law in our own spheres, that of self / family & church government: (bottom up reform).

    To hell with unbridled civil government, in all the ways that it is illegitimate & Un-Lawful (at odds with the Moral Law & Constitutional restraints).

    When we fail to recognize this distinction, we turn away from IN GOD WE TRUST into IN CAESAR WE TRUST, creating an idolatrous tyranny, and that to our destruction & dismay.

    Our crisis is primarily Moral & Religious, secondarily economic & political.

    Amazing what a pragmatic, utilitarian comment can generate in response.

    (Not to forget the Ron Paul (not credited) points in the post itself !)

    Cheers, and GO RON PAUL 2012 - every common sense person in the country is behind you, sir !

    David Alan & family

  14. @ Dale and others, don't let the negativity and ad hominim attacks of statist drones bother you. Just remember what Ghandi said "First they ignore you, then they mock you, then they fight you, then you win." IMO we are at the mock you part, so prepare for the fight that's next. Then we win and by we I mean Liberty.

  15. Rob, I post at Datalounge, a gay gossip and political forum that's so far left that it can't even look straight ahead. The attacks there are far more viscous than anything here. Hell, the sites tag line is "Gossip, plotics and pointless bitchery".

    Some anonymous statist isn't going to get under my skin that easily!

  16. It seems that the same quality many voters look for in a candidate is what's responsible for our govt's lack of commitment to any principle.

    That quality is political malleability. Voters want a political representative flexible enough to vote with the majority in their district, even if that majority goes against his/her personal beliefs.

    We forget that the very malleability that allows a candidate to compromise their principles for the majority of voters also makes them more susceptible to lobbying efforts.

    Whenever I hear a politician try to 'sell' their position (when it goes against Constitutional principles, anyway) based on popularity or necessity, instead of logic and principle, I lose respect. The politician's real job is to represent our interests within Constitutional limitations, not to tell us what we need. They are not leaders, they are representatives.

    What if you went into McDonald's or some other private business, told them what you wanted, and then they gave you something else, charged you more than you wanted to spend, and told you it was better for you, from their perspective?

  17. @Anonymous RE morons...

    We have $2.2T in tax revenues, which you wish to raise 10% to $2.42T.

    We have a budget of $3.7T which you want to cut 20% to $2.96T.

    What about the rest of it? You want us to pay more, get less, and still lose money?

    Why not just give up on the BS, pay nothing, get nothing, and find 'new Guards for our future security' like our nation's founding fathers did?

  18. Viscous=viscious. Damn autocorrect.

  19. Disingenuous headline. A single blogger (NOT "firedoglake," the SITE) writes a piece wherein he does not mention Ron Paul by name... does NOT equal "firedoglake just announced support for Ron Paul."


  20. I love the snark about the big lie being 9/11, and not 100 years of knowing, nakedly dishonest fiscal arguments from progressives.

    The progressives will reap what they sow.

  21. I'll say this once and I'll say it simply: for the love of liberty, STOP twisting other people's positions to saying they support Ron Paul when they actually don't.

    Unless they explicitly mention Ron Paul by name, it doesn't count. Got it? I don't even care if they privately support him, and you're correct for saying they do. If it doesn't come from their mouth, then you shouldn't be peddling falsehoods like it around.

    This is the same trollish tactic RP supporters did in 2008, with stuff like "Arianna Huffington supports Ron Paul", "Ben Affleck supports Ron Paul", etc. Just because they HAPPEN to say something that sounds like something Ron Paul supports does not mean that's who they support.

    Now knock it off, thanks.

  22. God, I wish that Bob would ban anonymous comments. They just stir shit and then hide behind their anonymity. If you're gonna take cheap shots, at least have the balls to sign your name so we can ignore your ignorant rantings and discount your moronic "ideas" without wasting our time responding.

    Anon 7/16@711PM- can you think of any other person in the race that this article could possibly apply to? No, because Dr Paul is the ONLY candidate that has these exact positions. Grab a clue!!!