no they are not pro libertarian they want so many things socialized its crazy: train companys for "free" traveling, "free" school meals, and a lot more "free" stuff. they simply dont get it. but, sadly, there are only worse choices here in germany. we have one pro ron paul party, called pdv "partei der vernunft" www.parteidervernunft.de but its a very small party, just started 2 years ago.
Ok, I can play that game: If you think that someone works for 10 years writing a book, and the moment they're done, it belongs to you, you aren't a libertarian.
I don't get the reference. If someone works on a book for 10 years and the second they are done with it, they own the physical book or files etc. However, information wants to be free. No one can own an idea.
"have no clue as to what you're even talking about."
I would argue that we do know, full and well, what we are talking about. The IP laws benefit the big corps now, and any small writer gets screwed.
Check out the story of the new "children's" book called "Go The F*ck To Sleep".
It got unleashed online, months before publication, and is now a best seller.
Or, look at the band "OK Go". They've worked hard, but all of their stuff is online, at YouTube, for free. If you want to buy the album they are grateful, but it's free if you look- and they don't come after you if you "steal" it. All of their albums are on file-sharing sites- it's how they made it to the big leagues.
As a result, they sing the "Muppets" theme for the new movie (which looks AWESOME) and are the lead on the new soundtrack.
IP laws don't help the "little guy" anymore- now it's about the big Disney guys getting their vig- or did you not read up about the extension of Copyright, pushed by Disney (who sent hundreds of millions to get extended) so that Mickey Rat didn't enter the public domain (plus screwed over many people who were working on books that were about to enter the public domain so they could expose the lost work to a new generation...)
IP might have been helpful if the big guys didn't control every aspect of it.
anti patent, anti copyright, pro libertarian.
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ReplyDeleteRW would not agree with you.
There are some good videos at Mises.org explaining that copyright and patent is just a statist granted monopoly.
ReplyDeleteno they are not pro libertarian
ReplyDeletethey want so many things socialized its crazy: train companys for "free" traveling, "free" school meals, and a lot more "free" stuff. they simply dont get it. but, sadly, there are only worse choices here in germany.
we have one pro ron paul party, called pdv "partei der vernunft" www.parteidervernunft.de but its a very small party, just started 2 years ago.
@Anonymous A lot of libertarians wouldn't agree with @anon 3:57. It's a very contentious issue.
ReplyDeleteIf you think that copyright and patent is lawful, you aren't libertarian.
ReplyDeleteOk, I can play that game: If you think that someone works for 10 years writing a book, and the moment they're done, it belongs to you, you aren't a libertarian.
ReplyDeleteI don't get the reference. If someone works on a book for 10 years and the second they are done with it, they own the physical book or files etc. However, information wants to be free. No one can own an idea.
ReplyDeleteIdeas can't be patented or copyrighted, so then what's *your* point.
ReplyDeleteA book is just an idea.
ReplyDeleteThat's the problem with trying to argue about IP with most of the anti-IP guys. You just have no clue as to what you're even talking about.
ReplyDelete"have no clue as to what you're even talking about."
ReplyDeleteI would argue that we do know, full and well, what we are talking about. The IP laws benefit the big corps now, and any small writer gets screwed.
Check out the story of the new "children's" book called "Go The F*ck To Sleep".
It got unleashed online, months before publication, and is now a best seller.
Or, look at the band "OK Go". They've worked hard, but all of their stuff is online, at YouTube, for free. If you want to buy the album they are grateful, but it's free if you look- and they don't come after you if you "steal" it. All of their albums are on file-sharing sites- it's how they made it to the big leagues.
As a result, they sing the "Muppets" theme for the new movie (which looks AWESOME) and are the lead on the new soundtrack.
IP laws don't help the "little guy" anymore- now it's about the big Disney guys getting their vig- or did you not read up about the extension of Copyright, pushed by Disney (who sent hundreds of millions to get extended) so that Mickey Rat didn't enter the public domain (plus screwed over many people who were working on books that were about to enter the public domain so they could expose the lost work to a new generation...)
IP might have been helpful if the big guys didn't control every aspect of it.