Sunday, November 13, 2011

Ron Paul on Waterboarding

During last night's CBS/National Journal Republican presidential debate debate, Ron Paul called supporting torture “un-American” after Michelle Bachmann and Herman Cain both said they supported waterboarding.

Herman Cain said of waterboarding, “I don’t see it as torture. I see it as an enhanced interrogation technique.”

Bachmann said to applause: “If I were president, I would be willing to use waterboarding.”

“Torture is illegal … waterboarding is torture,” Dr. Paul responded. “It’s illegal under international law and under our law. It’s also immoral and it’s also very impractical. There’s no evidence that you really get reliable evidence.

“I think it’s uncivilized. It would have no practical advantages and is really un-American to accept on principle that we will torture people we will capture.”


  1. It was one of the few times they let him speak.

  2. Many times I have seen Dr. Paul's foreign policies called crazy and thats the extent of the comment. What is so crazy? Congress should declare war? You may disagree but is it crazy? The idea of blowback? Any child should understand it. That war should be the last resort and not the first, second and third resorts? I need some neo-con guidance don't understand!

  3. I have a tactic I have used with those that support water boarding that so far has been effective in at least getting them to reconsider their position. I ask them "If don't see water boarding as torture then is it fair to say that our enemies also have a right to deploy this technique against American POW's?" If the respond no (which everyone I have asked so far has), then I ask them to explain why. At that point it usually ends with some sort of rhetoric that we are the good guys and need to protect American's.

    1. That's just brilliant you effing moron. Let me ask you a question, bright one. Do you think Nicolas Berg and Daniel Pearl would have preferred water boarding over beheading? Put down your crack pipe and wake up idiot.

  4. It's torture and nothing more. I think if a thugerment official supports waterboard or any other form of torture and is in a position to give it a green light they should be put under the said torture first. In the same guise thugerment agents (aka Cops) are required to be tasered, gased etc before they are allowed to carry such devices on their person.

  5. We as a civilized Bastion of Hope, Freedom, Justice, and Equality for so many do not torture. We do not torture not because we are weak, on the contrary, but because it corrupts our own morality. It takes incredible strength to stare an enemy in the face and refrain from giving them everything we've got. Our greatest strength lies in our principles.

  6. Beyond subverting free will into "anti-will" your being tortured does not simply violate you: it makes you violate yourself—it denies something even more fundamental than freedom: person-hood. It dehumanizes not only the victim and the torturer, but society as a whole.Torture is barbaric; rendition is barbaric and hypocritical. It must be an integral part of the fight against torture.
    The Pizza man and Bachmann are brutes and should be excluded from further debates on moral grounds.

  7. Ron Paul is too good for America.