With all the "PreCrime" implications raised by this debate, i.e., killing people saves lives, there is really only one comment made here worth noting.
"There is a really major possibility of abuse if you have the wrong people running the government. But the bottom line in the end is whose 4-year-old gets killed."
Uh, pardon me? If you are running a government that murders, even the possibly guilty, without the slightest consideration for public due process, and in a way that also murders innocents who happen to be in the vicinity, you are by definition "the wrong people."
Obama = Wrong People Bush = Wrong People Romney = Wrong People Republicans = Wrong People Democrats = Wrong People CFR, etc, etc, etc.
The Wrong People run the government. Perhaps much of the problem stems from the concept of "running" a government that ought to be mostly dismantled except for that which was originally built by the Founders. We are perfectly capable of running ourselves using sound money and free market econ if we could, somehow, dismantle the Wrong People.
Joe Klein: My definition of the wrong people would be those not using aggressive foreign policy at all, and not making any money off of not using agressive foreign policy. Dead 4 year olds help the "right" people keep this misery-system going.
"But if someone really thinks, in advance, that it is open to question whether such an action as procuring the judicial execution of the innocent should be quite excluded from consideration -I do not want to argue with him; he shows a corrupt mind."
The idea that an american 4 year old's life is worth more than any other 4 year old is sick. We are all human what country we belong to neither increases or decrease our value. It is very very sick for anyone to think otherwise and believe this propaganda!
This Joe Klein dude is beyond reprehensible. A complete "tird." And it's oh so sad that his mentality is the same as those running this drone program.
Besides, we could stop the vast majority of suicide terrorism tomorrow by simply withdrawing our troops from Muslim lands. Our presence there instigates and inspires suicide terrorist attacks against us.
With all the "PreCrime" implications raised by this debate, i.e., killing people saves lives, there is really only one comment made here worth noting.
ReplyDelete"There is a really major possibility of abuse if you have the wrong people running the government. But the bottom line in the end is whose 4-year-old gets killed."
Uh, pardon me? If you are running a government that murders, even the possibly guilty, without the slightest consideration for public due process, and in a way that also murders innocents who happen to be in the vicinity, you are by definition "the wrong people."
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DeleteThat was Klein's way of saying that Obama murdering children is okay, but it would be bad if Bush or Romney was doing it.
DeleteYou are completely correct. My point is this:
DeleteObama = Wrong People
Bush = Wrong People
Romney = Wrong People
Republicans = Wrong People
Democrats = Wrong People
CFR, etc, etc, etc.
The Wrong People run the government. Perhaps much of the problem stems from the concept of "running" a government that ought to be mostly dismantled except for that which was originally built by the Founders. We are perfectly capable of running ourselves using sound money and free market econ if we could, somehow, dismantle the Wrong People.
Sorry, got on a rant for a sec...
Joe Klein: My definition of the wrong people would be those not using aggressive foreign policy at all, and not making any money off of not using agressive foreign policy. Dead 4 year olds help the "right" people keep this misery-system going.
Delete(laughs maniacally; then vomits pea-soup)
The hypocrisy of these sociopaths is so brazen that it's sickening.
ReplyDeleteBesides Joe Scarborough, none of those laptop bombers has any understanding of the phrase "death before dishonor."
ReplyDeleteAs Mark Shea would rightly quip, this is consequentialism on parade.
"But if someone really thinks, in advance, that it is open to question whether such an action as procuring the judicial execution of the innocent should be quite excluded from consideration -I do not want to argue with him; he shows a corrupt mind."
ReplyDelete-Elizabeth Anscombe, 'Modern Moral Philosophy'
http://www.philosophy.uncc.edu/mleldrid/cmt/mmp.html
The idea that an american 4 year old's life is worth more than any other 4 year old is sick. We are all human what country we belong to neither increases or decrease our value. It is very very sick for anyone to think otherwise and believe this propaganda!
ReplyDeleteWhat a sick, depraved, amoral bastard.
ReplyDeleteThis Joe Klein dude is beyond reprehensible. A complete "tird." And it's oh so sad that his mentality is the same as those running this drone program.
ReplyDeleteBesides, we could stop the vast majority of suicide terrorism tomorrow by simply withdrawing our troops from Muslim lands. Our presence there instigates and inspires suicide terrorist attacks against us.