Friday, February 17, 2017

Reality Bites a Trump in the Ass

A Virginia winery owned by President Donald Trump’s son Eric is seeking permission to import almost two dozen additional foreign workers, according to a petition posted by the Department of Labor on Thursday.

The Trump Winery, also known as Trump Vineyard Estates, LLC, is asking to bring in 23 workers this spring to plant and harvest grapes. The workers are being sought under the federal H-2 visa program, which permits American employers to hire foreign laborers under temporary work visas as long as no qualified US workers want the jobs. The job on the 1,300-acre estate could run through late October.

The latest request is in addition to six workers the winery sought in December. The jobs will pay $11.27 an hour and require workers to labor outside in weather as cold as 10 degrees while “on their feet in bent positions for long periods of time,” according to the job posting.

In other words, reality bites a Trump in the ass.

The idea that it makes economic sense to only allow "the best and the brightest" foreigners into the United States, as the President has called for, is just big time economic ignorance.

It is entirely possible, as the Eric Trump petition suggests, that the most menial, harsh, low paying jobs are not of interest to American workers who have other options (or they would take the jobs).

Bottom line: The importation of such low-skilled foreign workers results in a net gain in product for the US economy.

  -RW

(Source:BuzzFeed)

23 comments:

  1. Stupid argument by libertardians. What is the cost of welfare that these immigrants derive? What is the cost of social services that they utilize? What is the cost of treating/controlling diseases that are imported by these immigrants? Who pays for their kid's schools? No answer. "we just know a bunch of shit form Ricardo and Mises, and that's all we know, so trust us"- Libertardians. Good thing that the larger society treats you as the fringe cultists you are.

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    1. 1.) Libertarians are against state provided social services.
      2.) Libertarians are against state provided social services.
      3.) Libertarians are against state provided social services.
      4.) Libertarians are against state provided social services.

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    2. 5.) valley sapiens is a welfar-loving statist who is terrified that the presence of too many brown people might mess up his white nationalist "plan"

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    3. Evan, you need to be assaulted or infected with an untreatable TB by one of those precious creatures. Better yet, maybe a house full of them in your neighborhood. I'm sure a house full of these would raise your property value, right? So when are you moving to the 'duh-verse' country of Brazil? If brown people could run things, those countries to the south of us should be in a lot better shape with the resources at hand.

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    4. Being against state provided social services and for open immigration means those with state power use the support to get the immigration and then proliferate state provided social services anyway.

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    5. Seems like an NAP violation.

      In your formulation, do you consider US intervention in Central and South America? Or do you consider race as the only factor in whether or not a society can put together a civilization?

      I think we know the answer.

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    6. The Lab Manager,

      If you insist on indulging your segregationist fetish, please do so on your own property.

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    7. Jimmy Joe Meeker,

      You can make that exact same claim about those who believe that further empowering government to dictate where people can move will paradoxically reduce the scope of the welfare state.

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    8. Evan, prove to me that these low IQ people or most 'turd world' immigrants are capable of maintaining a first world society. Let me know when you are moving to a black run American city like Detroit or something. But I already know the answer.

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    9. Re: The Lab Manager,

      --- Evan, prove to me that these low IQ people or most 'turd world' immigrants are capable of maintaining a first world society. ---

      For TLM, the fact that immigrants are willing to abandon the land that saw them being born and grow is not enough "evidence". No, these individuals should demonstrate an extraordinary ability that not even most Americans show, judging by the politicians they vote for. It's really not much of a standard when you look deeper into it, LTM. You should shed your pride in an effort to look less ridiculous.

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    10. Evan, No you can't because the state seeks to expand dependency on it and grow all its programs.

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    11. Valley Sapien:

      There are plenty of Americans who are on welfare, who utilize social services, who are diseased, and who send their kids to schools that others pay for. If you don't like these characteristics in people, I assume you'd want to forcibly expel these people too?

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  2. So because some Americans enact stupid welfare policies you have the right violently interfere with other people who are in no way responsible for those stupid policies? Do you kick your dog if you lose your wallet?

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  3. $11.27 an hour? Even after adjusted for CPI I did menial, harsh, low paying jobs for less, considerably less, in my youth.

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  4. Bottom line: The importation of such low-skilled foreign workers results in a net gain in product for the US economy.

    C'est oui !
    Nailed it.
    The French, especially Parisians are in total agreement.
    The "net gains" are just excellent and then some.
    Rock on Libertarians.

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    1. > State sponsored immigration schemes brings in all kinds of immigrants in France.
      > Immigration schemes naturally leads to unintended consequences.
      > Blames immigration in general.
      > Is descended from immigrants.

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  5. At least they are not illegal though it would be interesting to find out if it paid $15 an hour whether they would attract anyone. I could work with an H-2 program instead of them streaming across the border if there is genuine need. But we know blacks probably won't do it right, cuz that beez likes slabery.

    Maybe follow the lead of this guy. Yes, we will have to pay more for garlic but it is already a bargain in some ways.
    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-garlic-labor-shortage-20170207-story.html

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    1. Re: The Lab Manager,

      --- At least they are not illegal[...] ---

      As if that made any difference.

      --- I could work with an H-2 program instead of them streaming across the border if there is genuine need. ---

      So gracious of you to concede people have "genuine needs."

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  6. People who don't let silly immigration laws get in the way of business are exactly the kind of American we need more of.

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    1. One could make the argument that these employers are practicing agorism.

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    2. Precisely. I can't believe how often I hear supposed libertarians complaining that "illegals don't pay taxes" as if this is a bad thing.

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  7. One piece about economic reality and immigration and the economically-incompetent xenophobes arrive here to vent their prejudices and bigotry as if on cue. Will wonders ever cease?

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  8. Just want to point out that the cost for such companies paying migrants vs residents 11.25 is not the same. If you employ residents at the same wage, there is a much higher cost. So this is probably equal cost to them as hiring a resident worker for 6 bucks or something.

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