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The Difference Between Ron Paul & Ron Paul Inc: Dennis Fusaro Explains on The Robert Wenzel Show
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Here's a disturbing video of Mike Rothfeld, who was mentioned in the interview:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QCzww6EG7E
FWIW: Some time between the 2008 and 2012 campaigns, I attended a CforL activist training in either Northern Md or Delaware. It cost $30. The lecturer was this guy Kirk who made the same essential points. Rothfeld is a lot more aggressive sounding. Both sound like they were from the "right to work" camp. They did give us a survey that included a question about 9/11. Being a realist about politics is okay. Lying for a candidate that supposedly is honest seems self defeating.
DeleteLearning
A great and revealing interview. I find the observations of the "academic" and "practical" wings of Ron Paul's campaign interesting. No one (probably) has heard of anyone in the "practical" wing, other than tools like Jesse Benton etc. On the other hand, I've heard of everyone in the "academic" wing, and I suspect many other Ron Paul supporters are like me.
ReplyDeleteI only listened to the first five minutes, but I just want to make this clear:
ReplyDeleteI've met with Mike and heard him speak. He's a great guy. He's no economist or political theorist, but he loves Ron Paul. He loves Rand Paul. He loves liberty. He is a political fundraising GENIUS who only supports the most free market-oriented of political candidates.
@ChadThrustington
Disturbing? That was one of the most sensible lectures on politics I've ever heard!
Rothfeld is for a massively powerful state to conduct wars, deal with immigrants, crack down on crime, jail people over abortion, marginalize gays, and do a thousand other things in the red-state fascist playbook. What a great guy!
DeleteI listened to a lecture titled, "What Ever Happened to the Constitution?" by Andrew Napolitano at the Mises Institute.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sNWbiAMf80
In it the Judge talks about the lust to dominate being the tell regarding statists.
What you see in Mike Rothfeld and those in Ron Paul Inc is a lust to dominate. Rothfeld is not even shy about it. He specifically talks about his goal to obtain power by controlling politicians.
Such notions are absolutely incompatible with the philosophy of liberty that Ron Paul has spend decades advocating.
I recommend everyone steer clear of anything associated with Rothfeld and the people of Ron Paul Inc. Their agenda is clear, power not liberty.
I don't think Dennis is the pro academic he claims he is:
ReplyDeleteFwd: Ron Paul is too nice!
Dennis Fusaro grassrootsva@gmail.com
9/26/09
to
FYI - Don't let Ron Paul be soft because Barney Fag gave him a hearing
on HR 1207 and he doesn't like what's necessary to do. Ask him to
fight back no matter how distasteful he feels it is.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dennis Fusaro
Date: Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Ron Paul is too nice!
To: "GaryNorth@garynorth.com"
Lew Rockwell
Lew,
You are no where near success! What boy scouts. Academics not street
fighters. And right now, you and Woods and C4L need to be street
fighters.
You guys are going to get screwed and get nothing. Your own guy will
help them screw you procedurally and substantively. Ron Paul is going
to help them do it. Read the article Lew. He is helping them.
If the bill doesn't "influence" monetary policy what good is it?
They have already shifted the discussion from FED accountability to
"making sure we don't influence monetary policy." We'd like to know
what you are doing, but we don't want to influence what you are doing.
Heisenberg call your office.
Running Austrian Economics conferences is one thing, but fighting in
politics in another. I am sure you'll blame the other side - which is
the easy way out - for what you yourselves will have done here.
Dennis Fusaro
Denis Fusaro has sent me the following response to the above comment:-RW:
DeleteBob,
Yep. That was me. It was a Rothfeldian moment. After that was sent, I was called to a meeting with Rothfeld and told I had burned my bridges. Ron saw it. Lew saw it. Others saw it. The "boys in the hood" agrees with me, they just didn't want to say such things to Ron.
As I said, I've come to have serious reservations about the methodology. I was a RIght to Work snot.
So does this refute my point of agenda diversion?
Here's the full email which was a playing off of a report from Dick Mills, a grassroots Ron Paul supporter, of "victory" coming soon on the audit the Fed bill based on a media report from Market Watch.
Dennis
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dennis Fusaro
Date: Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Ron Paul is too nice!
To:Gary North
Lew Rockwell
Lew,
You are no where near success! What boy scouts. Academics not street
fighters. And right now, you and Woods and C4L need to be street
fighters.
You guys are going to get screwed and get nothing. Your own guy will
help them screw you procedurally and substantively. Ron Paul is going
to help them do it. Read the article Lew. He is helping them.
If the bill doesn't "influence" monetary policy what good is it?
They have already shifted the discussion from FED accountability to
"making sure we don't influence monetary policy." We'd like to know
what you are doing, but we don't want to influence what you are doing.
Heisenberg call your office.
Running Austrian Economics conferences is one thing, but fighting in
politics in another. I am sure you'll blame the other side - which is
the easy way out - for what you yourselves will have done here.
Dennis Fusaro
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dick Mills
Date: Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Subject: AUDIT THE FED!! SUCCESS NEAR AT LAST.
- Hide quoted text -
Dear Friends of the Republic,
Please read the important article copied below.
The long-overdue auditing of the arrogant, unelected Federal Reserve
monetary dictators will soon come to pass after the ardent work of
patriots all over this country in the wake of the financial disaster(s) caused by the secretive, New World Order clique which has its hand on the major levers of power within the federal government
and whose primary tool for control is the money-creating power of this
immoral and un-Constitutional organization.
The magic number, according to reports of House of Representatives
rules, is 290 co-sponsors in the House which suspends certain rules
and forces a vote on a bill without Committee approval. We now have
more than the required number in the House. The question, now, is
whether or not the Senate, long an obstruction to anything endangering
their precious Federal Reserve System, will gain enough supporters to
pass a vote there. Finally, Obama, being beholden to the Banksters
and their ilk at the Council on Foreign Relations, may decide to
ignore the wishes of both chambers and veto the final bill, if passed,
requiring an override of 2/3s majority in both houses of Congress.
If he does, it could be a major nail in his own coffin.
Please continue to urge your Senators to support the sister bill in the Senate. We need the votes of at least 51 Senators…which may be hard to get unless the people make their voices heard loudly and clearly.
For Constitutional Government, Liberty, and Sound Money,
Dick Mills
Editor
Keep the Republic Newsletter
Houston, Texas
Sept. 25, 2009, 12:12 p.m. EDT
Fed audit bill gets backing from key lawmaker
Ron Paul's bill, which would examine every aspect of the Fed, has 295 backers
By Ronald D. Orol, MarketWatch
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COMMENT CONTIUED
DeleteWASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- House Financial Services Committee
Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass., on Friday backed a bill to require a
broad congressional auditing of how the Federal Reserve carries out
its monetary policy, including how much it has lent and will lend to
specific banks as part of its bank bailout program.
"We are serious about some legislation in this regard," said Frank at
a hearing on the bill. "However, some time needs to elapse before
certain disclosures take place...we are working together; we want
there to be publicity, but we don't want there to be a market effect
in the near term."
The legislation, introduced by Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, requires
approval by the House Financial Service Committee and Frank said it
would likely be included in broader financial regulatory reform
legislation under consideration in the committee. GOP and Democratic
lawmakers in the committee expressed support for the bill, which has
295 backers in the House.
The legislation would require the Government Accountability Office to
complete a policy audit of every aspect of the Fed, including its
interest rate policy as well as its wide variety of programs
responding to the financial crisis such as its lender-of-last-resort
authority. A similar bill is under consideration in the Senate.
The conceptual agreement between Frank and Paul would also permit the
GAO to identify exactly which institutions borrow from the Fed's
discount window.
However, the legislation is opposed by the Fed, which argues it would
weaken the bank's independence and hamper the central bank's ability
to protect the financial system.
Specifically, the Fed argues that institutions would be afraid to
borrow from the discount window when they need to because they would
be stigmatized as troubled firms, and the result would be a more
troubled economic situation.
"Financial markets likely would see the grant of audit authority to
the GAO with respect to monetary policy as undermining the Federal
Reserve's independence in this crucial area, particularly because GAO
audits or the threat of a GAO audit could be used both to second-guess
the Federal Reserve's monetary policy judgments and to try to
influence subsequent monetary policy decisions," said Federal Reserve
General Counsel Scott Alvarez to lawmakers at the committee.
"Authorizing the GAO to audit the discount window and other
broad-based lending programs could significantly increase potential
borrowers' fears of stigma and adverse reactions," he said.
Disclosure, but not right away
However, Frank said a time-lag could help alleviate some of these
concerns. He also added that information about borrowing should
eventually be made public.
"If you borrow money and get involved, ultimately it will be
published, but you don't publish it in a way that affects the market,"
Frank said to reporters. "But that is different than saying you can go
to Fed, borrow money, and keep it secret for ever."
Paul, who first introduced a Fed audit bill in 1983, said he didn't
believe the legislation would impact central bank policy.
"We're going to make sure this is not going to influence monetary
policy," said Paul. "How many audits does the GAO perform in the state
department, DOD and other agencies and nobody has ever charged GAO for
altering policies."
How long of a delay?
Paul told MarketWatch that he supported some sort of delay before
information about monetary policy and which banks come to the discount
window for assistance is released is important.
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