Tuesday, August 21, 2012
HOT: Brandon Raub Being Transferred to Veterans Hospital Psych Ward
Special Justice Walter Douglass Stokes for the General District Court for the City of Hopewell, Va., has denied an emergency motion filed by attorneys for The Rutherford Institute to stop former Marine Brandon Raub from being forcibly transferred to a psychiatric facility more than three hours away from his family, friends and legal team.
Raub, who was arrested, detained indefinitely in a psych ward and forced to undergo psychological evaluations based solely on the controversial nature of lines from song lyrics, political messages and virtual card games which he posted to his private Facebook page, is being transferred from John Randolph Psychiatric Medical Hospital in Hopewell to the Veterans Hospital in Salem, Va., on the other side of the state.
“This is not how justice in America is supposed to work—with Americans being arrested for doing nothing more than exercising their First Amendment rights, forced to undergo psychological evaluations, detained against their will and isolated from their family, friends and attorneys. This is a scary new chapter in our history,” said John W. Whitehead, president of The Rutherford Institute. “Brandon Raub is no different from the majority of Americans who use their private Facebook pages to post a variety of content, ranging from song lyrics and political hyperbole to trash talking their neighbors, friends and government leaders.”
In a hearing before Special Justice Walter Douglass Stokes on August 20, government officials again pointed to Raub’s Facebook posts as the sole reason for their concern and for his continued incarceration. Ignoring Raub’s explanations about the fact that the FB posts were being read out of context and his attorney’s First Amendment defense, Stokes sentenced the former Marine to up to 30 days’ further confinement in a psych ward and signed a court order for Raub’s involuntary admission to the Veterans Hospital in Salem. Rutherford Institute attorneys are in the process of filing various emergency motions and procedural appeals to challenge Raub’s detention.
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What in the hell is going on here? Is there something more that we're not hearing about? I mean I sure hope so, because this is downright terrifying.
ReplyDeleteNope, just your run of the mill tyranny. Nothing to see, here, move along.
DeleteShades of the Third Reich!
DeleteChances are quite good that the world shall go along quietly not giving a whit.
ReplyDeleteSad to admit.
Yep, they are sinking their meat hooks into the boy more deeply now. The message is being sent, love Big Brother or else.
DeleteYou don't see too many cries in the MSM about the injustice of shoving Manning down a legal hole either....
That's because the MSM owners are the ones controlling more than you think -- why else would they not discuss most of the "alternative news" that has real meaning?
DeleteWe need to be vigilant on this story -- the judges are obviously bought and paid for -- there is no true justice in this situation.
We just need to get folks in the Salem area involved and for them to protest in front of the new facility. Keep this in the news in Salem and everywhere. Bastards!
nope this is really happaning here in commistamerica
ReplyDeleteIf you feel this is WRONG, speak up now while you can. This is how Stalin started.
ReplyDeleteYup, Hitler started this way as did many others. Just get your precious metals ready - starting with the lead! The time is coming - when they will be needed!
DeleteSalem VA is one hour away from me.
ReplyDeleteso?
DeleteThey are really trying to job this guy. There is a VA Med Center in Richmond. Close to his home, and another one in Hampton VA which is 90 mins or less away. Salem is in the sticks, a stones throw south of Roanoke.
ReplyDeleteAnother criminal act, by an illegitimate government.
I was wondering the same thing myself.
DeleteTo whom can I write a scathing e-mail that will never be read but will assuage my desire to do something, anything, in reaction to this?
ReplyDeleteYou can start by writing your congress critters and asking them to help with this illegal activity and whether they will do anything more about it or if you will actively campaign for someone else who will. Then you can email everyone you can and let them know to do the same. If pressure is brought to bear, then the bear will start sweating!
Deletep.s. BEAR = Big Egregious Awful Regime
Brendan Raub needs to be released NOW
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Brandon Raub is still under a Marine contract. Is he still under inactive reserve status?
ReplyDeleteAlso, if he is no longer under a military contract, does is prior military service make him subject to VA incarceration?
When I enlisted back in 80 the total obligation was 6 years. I believe it is now 8, which means from the date of the contract on your enlistment they reserve the right to recall, or as was the case at the height of the Iraq folly, to hold you until the eight years was completed. So basically it's a four year deal, with a government option for four additional years. One more reason three generations of military service will, if I have much to say about it. Stop with me.
DeleteI feel so bad for him and AM SO ANGRY THAT THIS CAN BE DONE TO AN AMERICAN. I know of 3 other military personnel who are against everything this administration stands for; but because they are currently serving our country they cannot and will not speak out. SHAME ON US! ! ! They can be sent anywhere in the world to die for us but they no longer have Freedom of Speech. God have mercy on us as a country. Sincerely.
ReplyDeleteIf they had done this under the authority of the recent Nat'l Defense Authorization Act legislation, they would not have had to see a judge, allow him legal support or even acknowledge that he is under their custody and they could hold him without any time limit. Welcome to the new AMERIKA!
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone remember the president killing someone in a forign country with a drone?
ReplyDeleteSomething has to be done about our "out of control" government. November is coming.
ReplyDeleteYa' still can't fight shitty-hall. C'est la vie. Living's very inexpenve in Cotacachi, Ecuador.
ReplyDeleteHello EconomicPolicyJournal.com,
ReplyDeleteI need more info before I fly off the handle and call a congressman, send a letter to the editor, call in the cavalry, etc. Why did they even care what he wrote? Who/what are paying attention to him? After all, there are a few topics that are not free to speak of, eg. fire in a theater, etc. Let's get to the bottom of this...then Blow the Alarm!
I still remember Rothbard's discussion of the fire in the theater gambit. His point was you need not limit speech in order to prohibit such an action. The theater owner could/would make it a condition that in order to visit his theater that you not engage in activities that disrupt his business. I believe freedom of speech is a specious idea. What one has is the freedom to use his property in any manner he wishes as long as he doesn't physically harm another. Also one can not be charged with crimes because he talks about them or encourages others to commit crimes.
DeleteAgree with Nondescript. Let's have an accurate description -- direct quotes-- as to what Raub wrote. It's impossible to form a good opinion of this situation without knowing this. Can someone provide weblinks to his writings -- hopefully saved elsewhere besides Facebook.
DeleteIt doesn't matter WHO is in the Oval Office people...this isn't a RED or Blue thing...this is a power struggle between the wealthy and not so wealthy.
ReplyDeleteRomney won't make a rat's butt of difference...it's the machine you must kill. Wake TF up!!!
Is there ANY question that Obama's socialist-totalitarian police state is now fully operational at every level?
ReplyDeleteWhere to send contributions to the defense fund and does the defense firm have a website that can provide more information??
ReplyDeleteI promise you, it's SO MUCH worse than you have any idea!
ReplyDeleteWhen the Nazis came to take the Communists, I was silent. After all, I was no Communist. When they took the Jews, I was silent. I am no Jew. When they arrested the Social Democrats, I was silent. I was no Social Democrat. When they came to take me, there was no one left to protest.
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This guy appears to know something from his service they are desperate not to get out. By putting him in an asylum they can say he is totally mad. When he does get out and tells people about whatever( he may not know himself a small piece of information he has is so important) no body will believe him as think he is mad. Being brainwashed about his service and what he did on it, so as to mix facts with fiction fed to him for this reason. An “accident” may have had something in his background come out that is why he is still alive.
For those of you old enough, this is what the USSR did - assign dissidents to "psych wards."
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