Wednesday, October 10, 2012

HOT Rand Paul: Romney's Wrong on Middle East, Defense Spending

Wow, is Rand Paul pissed at Mitt Romney? Is this just a Machiavellian move by Rand to lure libertarian and Tea Party votes to Romney (Rand says Romney will be good on domestic policy)?Did Ron have a good talk with him? Or is he just monitoring which way the wind blows and knows he will need libertarian and Tea Party votes in the future? Whatever the reason, Rand sort of threw Romney under the bus because of his foreign policy views, in a special piece for  CNN. Rand leaves some wiggle room for going to war, but this is overall a pretty anti-intervention speech. Here's Rand:
This week, I will campaign for Gov. Mitt Romney. I believe this election will and should be about moving America back from the edge of the abyss on which we stand, where our debt and spending threaten to overwhelm and drown us. Romney's belief in free markets, limited government and trade make him the clear choice to lead our country come January. 
I do not, however, support a call for intervention in Syria. And, if such intervention were being contemplated, it is absolutely necessary that Congress give any such authority to the president. No president, Republican or Democrat, has the unilateral power to take our nation to war without the authority of the legislature. 
At times, I have been encouraged by Romney's foreign policy. I agree with his call to end the war in Afghanistan sooner rather than later and with his skepticism of, and call for reform in, foreign aid, but I am a bit dismayed by his foreign policy speech Monday, titled "Mantle of Leadership." 
Romney chose to criticize President Obama for seeking to cut a bloated Defense Department and for not being bellicose enough in the Middle East, two assertions with which I cannot agree. 
Defense and war spending has grown 137% since 2001. That kind of growth is not sustainable. 
Adm. Michael Mullen stated earlier this year that the biggest threat to our national security is our debt. 
If debt is our gravest threat, adding to the debt by expanding military spending further threatens our national security. 
While I would always stand up for America and preserve our ability to defend ourselves, a less aggressive foreign policy along with an audit of the Pentagon could save tens of billions of dollars each year without sacrificing our defense. To dismiss either idea is to miss the very compromise that will enable us to balance our budget. That compromise would be for conservatives to admit that not every dollar spent on the military is sacred or well-spent and for liberals to admit that not every dollar spent on domestic entitlements and welfare is necessary. 
In North Africa and the Middle East, our problem has not been a lack of intervention. In the past 10 years we have fought two full wars there, and bombed or sent troops into several others. 
This past year, President Obama illegally began a war with Libya, taking sides with the rebels to unseat an admittedly bad man in Moammar Gadhafi. There were several problems with this policy: First, the president did not seek or get the necessary constitutional authority from Congress for this military action. If our Constitution is to mean anything it must be applied even in times of war, when those seeking to exercise power do not find it expedient. 
Just as importantly, the Libyan rebels were assisted with virtually no one in the administration or in Congress demanding to know who these people were that we were arming and propping up. No one seemed to understand that in toppling Libya's dictatorship, we were leaving in its wake an unformed, unorganized government without a centralized structure, one that would have a difficult time keeping order among the more than 100 tribes that make up Libya.
This "act first, think later" foreign policy has real consequences. We've seen our embassies and consulates stormed in more than one country. Our diplomats and security team were killed. Our flag is being burned, our country mocked.
The proper response to this would be to step back and think of whether we really need to be involved in these countries in the way we have been. Instead, both parties rush headlong into more places they don't understand, exemplified Monday by Romney urging action to arm Syrian rebels and topple President Bashar al-Assad. 
But just who are these rebels? What will they do when in power? Is this really in our vital national interest? 
We've been 10 years in Afghanistan and we can't identify friend from foe. Do you think we can, with certainty, identify friend and foe in Syria?
Read the rest here.

UPDATE: Mark Juslen emails and reports on today's interview of Rand Paul by Peter Schiff:

Rand Paul cheerleads for Romney. Peter makes some comments critical of Romney and Rand completely changes the subject. It's rather disgusting how obvious he makes it. 


9 comments:

  1. "Cheerleads", "pissed at", "threw under the bus", "monitoring which way the wind blows".. how many more contradictory versions will you invent?

    What he's doing seems much more like "STATING HIS OPINION".

    Which, by the way, seems at least 70+% reasonable.

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  2. "First, the president did not seek or get the necessary constitutional authority from Congress for this military action."

    Won't happen again.

    Perhaps Rand is open to learning that when you walk with the devils, compromise is not a successful strategy. His father did an exemplary job of this. It would be nice to think that it is not too late for Rand to learn this as well.

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  3. If you read the op-ed closely you will see traces of the 2000 "humble foreign policy" Bushism that led us to Iraq/Afghanistan. This is just Rand being Rand...trying to play the "liberty game" but leaving open enough options as to still be a "Republican conservative" loyal the party.

    Examples:

    1) "[. . .] it is absolutely necessary that Congress give any such authority to the president. No president, Republican or Democrat, has the unilateral power to take our nation to war without the authority of the legislature."

    Why doesn't Rand use the term "declaration of war" just like his dad would (and did)? After all, remember that Bush got the "authority" to go into Iraq. Getting an "authority" as opposed to the constitutional "declaration" merely lowers the standard and heightens the possibility of a rubber-stamp Congress.

    2)"[. . .] a less aggressive foreign policy along with an audit of the Pentagon could save tens of billions of dollars each year without sacrificing our defense."

    How about a NON-AGGRESSIVE foreign policy as opposed to just a less aggressive one, Rand? Again, he implicitly lowers the standards.

    3)"Before taking our country closer to war, shouldn't we at least ask the viewpoint of the significant Christian population in Syria? "

    True, but what about ALL populations, including Muslims, that hate odious wars and interventionism? I guess they don't deserve consideration, and, in fact, Rand nowhere lists the thousands upon thousands of deaths that the locals have suffered. Ron before has made constitutional, moral, and economic arguments. Rand cannot seem to make the moral one for some reason (and his constitutional one is just plain bad).

    Of course, actually saying "in addition to American soldier deaths, these wars leads to the deaths of thousands of innocent locals" takes guts, which Rand doesn't have.

    4) "I would not hesitate to vote to send American troops to war to protect our country and our vital national security interests."

    I wish that Rand would describe what these vital national security interests are. Note that he has separated them from "our country," so they are something else other than an attack or potential attack on the United States.

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  4. Up to now, too many indications that Rand Paul is FOS. He's nothing but an opportunist and a political hack, and a statist. F him.

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  5. Rand has never deviated far from his father on most positions. He tries to express himself in terms that are less controversial, but the substance is similar. It would be unreasonable to expect that they would hold identical views on very single issue, but he has frequently been attacked here for deviationism simply because he has not repeated his father's positon word-for-word. And he has even been attacked for taking the correct position. Thus his opposition to foreign aid to Pakistan is somehow interpreted as support for foreign aid to other countries, a total misrepresentation of Rand's position.

    Yes, Rand has sought to establish his Republican credentials to a greater extent than Ron has, but if you want Republican votes that's the sort of thing you have to do to win an election larger than a House district.

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  6. As a Ron Paul supporter and Libertarian, I'm not buying this critical speech of Mitt Romney by Rand Paul. If Rand has any concept of American History; if he has any clue about liberty in the classical, founding fathers sense; if he has any inkling of an understanding about the expansion of the "State" then he would not be supporting Mitt Romney who actually wants to increase military spending which is antithetical to the foreign policy vision of the founders, restricts liberty, and gives the "State" untold and unconstitutional powers all in the name of "keeping us safe."

    What a sham this guy Rand is. He states: "Romney's belief in free markets, limited government and trade make him the clear choice to lead our country come January." Rand, are you serious? Romney doesn't believe in free markets. He's on record saying you can't cut $1 trillion from the budget because it would harm the economy. That's not free market thinking. That's Keyensianism. And that's why the country is an economic mess. Secondly, you can't have limited government when, at the same time, you have an expanding military budget, and, by extension, an expanding "State." It's not going to happen.

    Nice try Rand, but we're not buying it.

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  7. Though I always take things with a grain of salt (whatever that's supposed to mean), I like what he had to say.

    A lot of his stuff was obvious, and of course people seem to ignore it. However, he did bring up the Christian population argument. This is something that needs to be put out more often, considering that the church, which is a big factor in the Republican party, is for war or completely ignores what is going on. Some say "well, what about the moral argument"; well, this argument is not for you or libertarians. It's for people that have a major influence in the party of war. If that "major influence" wakes up and understand that what has been going on is wrong, then the warhawks will have a harder time convincing the nation to go to war.

    As for the "update", welcome to politics. Rand can only say so much. Not that I would ever put my whole trust in a single man - not even in his dad. I am my own leader. Libertarians seem to have an aversion to politics or the activities thereof - as if politics don't exist in day to day life or at work. We think that anything that looks suspicious is wrong. Could be; it very well be. But, that's not the information that we have.

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  8. Perhaps the EPJ is starting to wake up? Rand is the real deal. The NWO fears him, now its time to give him some love.

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