Sunday, January 13, 2013

This Weekend in Rhamaland Gun Play

HuffPo has the report:
Two slain teenagers were among at least six people shot in Chicago from Friday afternoon through early Saturday.

According to DNAinfo Chicago, 14-year-old Rey Dorantes was sitting on the front porch of his family's home around 11:50 p.m. Friday in the 2400 block of West Augusta Boulevard in the Humboldt Park neighborhood when two males approached him and opened fire[...]

Just four hours earlier, a 15-year-old boy was fatally shot in the 2600 block of South Ridgeway Avenue in the city's Little Village neighborhood.

Victor Vega had been walking with another male when a male approached them and fired multiple shots around 6:40 p.m. Friday. Victor was taken to an area hospital where he died a half hour later, according to NBC Chicago


  1. I can only hope that the White House will bring this kind of "success" to my home town with sweeping federal legislation restricting guns.

  2. Poor people need private neighborhoods too.

  3. Good thing Chicago has banned guns for years.

    Again, the damning stats:

    Chicago had over 500 murders last year despite banning all firearms from non government hands

    The entire nation of the US had 323 killing with a rifle, and some of those were justified police shootings and self defense, so the figure is probably in the 200s.

    And fascists want to ban rifles?

  4. Chicago Police Chief: We'll SHOOT licensed civilians with Guns

    "He said that citizens licensed to carry could be, and indeed predicted they would be shot by Chicago Police Officers."
    “I don’t care if they’re licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained… putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster. So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”

    "Did you know in his younger days, he and his NY State Police Trooper brother, while highly intoxicated and off-duty, shot out street lights outside a bar on St. Paddy's Day in the 46th Precinct where McCarthy worked. They then nearly started a riot by shouting the "N" word at locals."

    1. "People who are not highly trained"

      Then he means almost all of the police forces in the US, unless they grew up shooting or choose to spend their own money to train with good instructors.

      I agree with him on that, most cops shouldn't be armed bc they have no concept of how to properly shoot under stress and pressure accurately and quickly. The average cop is absolutely pathetic in comparison with the average civilian who chooses to spend time and money shooting and getting quality training.

      I am not making this up - those of you familiar with Col Jeff Cooper, who came up with many of the modern day advancements involving fighting with a pistol, said exactly the same thing for years and years.

    2. If anything, the level of competence with pistols by the police is probably worse today then it was when Col. Cooper was actively promoting his (then new) techniques.

      Guys in cities that end up being cops have never even seen a gun let alone touched one until in the academy.

      I've heard that some departments have as little as 200 round 'qualifying' instruction over 12 weeks. I shoot that much off in a weekend.

    3. 200 rounds? I have shot that in a few minutes with a Glock 19! Believe it or not, it isn't too uncommon for people to be passed under what is already really easy qualification tests for police and the military when they didn't actually pass. I know of people who have witnessed this first hand in the military.

      Great point that police are even worse than in the days of Col Cooper. Col Cooper would always say that this was primarily two reasons, and that it also applied to the military:

      1) The people in the military or police these days don't have a passion for firearms, so they haven't grown up shooting nor do they spend any time or money doing any more than what is required, and most cops aren't exactly getting good instruction to begin with judging by their stances and how they hold the pistols in photos I have seen

      2) As the nation has changed from being primarily rural to mostly urban, many people do not have touch a firearm until basic training in the military or in the police academy. When that is combined with what most of the former tier one special forces guys who now train for a living like Larry Vickers, Paul Howe, etc describe as pretty bad instruction they get in the police/military, you have a recipe for the kind of crap that happened in NYC not too long ago where cops started randomly shooting into the crowd and wounded a lot of people who had nothing to do with anything