BATTLE: David Gordon vs. Gene Callahan

Wherein Gordon forces Callahan into saying:

David, you are correct:

But, Gordon isn't satisfied with even this. He goes at Callahan once more, with a massive body blow:

 The objections you raise to anarchism seem to me to differ from those that Dan McCarthy raised. Your objections are Hobbesian; you think that without a state, there would be no stable legal order and powerful and ruthless gangs would prey on the weak. Dan's objections in his TAC post are different. He thinks that in a libertarian society that works as intended by libertarians like Rothbard, the employers and property owners have too much power. He isn't talking about a lawless society, but rather a society he takes to be flawed in conception. In my response to him, I tried to address his objections, as I understood them, so that is why you did not find in what I said a response to your own distinct objections. By the way, it isn't a matter a definition that businesses in a free market succeed by pleasing consumers. This is an empirical claim about markets that operate in a stable legal system. Whether such a system can exist without a state is of course what it is at issue between us.

This is a re-enactment of the event.

The transcript is here.