Well done. This could become the stealth issue of the year. Especially if the Health Care Bill fails to pass.
Horrible.India has one in the works too. The ex chief of Infosys is behind that one.Public outcry stopped it in UK a while back..might be coming back now..You're worried about digging up dirt.I'm worried how easy it will be to make up dirt..
ID Cards - an Historical Viewhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15231"Does history tell us anything about the main purpose of ID schemes? History shows strong recurring themes."Surprisingly, again and again, the main function has been controlling labour and the workforce, to serve the objective of creating a command economy. Suppression of political dissent has been in second place, although often a ‘close second’."It is important to recognise the introduction of ID cards as a global phenomenon, part of a global strategy on personal information, as described in the following articles: -http://www.corbettreport.com/articles/20100109_id_cards.htmID Cards - Intergovernmental Cooperation in Worldwide ImplementationID Cards - a World Viewhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14992"Electronic ID cards have made alarming progress towards becoming universal, around the world. Already, over 2.2 billion people, or 33% of the world’s population, have been issued with ‘smart’ ID cards. Of those, over 900 million have biometric facial and fingerprint systems. On present plans, over 85% of the world’s population will have smart ID cards by 2012. Most of the remaining population won’t have escaped - largely, they are already enrolled in earlier generation ID systems, often in repressive states, such as Myanmar (Burma)"
Interestingly of one of those articles is that ID cards are about facilitating increased numbers of migrant workers - that ID cards are just about creating the means to manage and control themhttp://www.corbettreport.com/articles/20100109_id_cards.htmID Cards - Intergovernmental Cooperation in Worldwide Implementation
Love the article.The only thing I don't understand is the "managing people" at the workplace point that you make. Every family member that I have who works in the "professional" environment are basically forced to come in early, stay late, bring work home with them, pay "babysitters" to take care of their kids during extra hours of work, and basically become a serf to the corporate overlord all without $ compensation. I think you are severely overplaying the effect "the card" will have on the ability to "manage people" (which made me feel a little ill when I read it). Perhaps the # of sexual harassment law suits and similar suits are abused. However, I've seen a trend in the professional world that is aiding the government to separate families and turn life into "your job" instead of using a job to live your life.The rest of your article is perfect. However, "managing people" is hardly the way we should be thinking about each other. Communism and Capitalism are really good friends when you see how "Capitalists" are securing basically every piece of property in the world and restricting the middle and lower classes. This is why we see the "disappearance" of the middle class.It's becoming serf / lord situation here in America and the card will make it worse. But I really don't see preventing mega-corporations from firing people for not giving free labor (IE working earlier than 8 till after 5 with a half hour lunch with no overtime b/c of salary based pay) as being a bad thing. However, this card is definitely not a good thing. It's the beginning of overt socialism in the country instead of the subversive socialism that we've all become so comfortable with.
this is not a "states" issue,these plans are global in nature.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JiIQiol5-o
Re: Lila RajivaHeck...imagine if a "Lilla Rajiva" did something bad and someone forgot the second "l." We've seen how difficult it is to get the government to correct a mistake...We are in very difficult times.
This video is a great reason why we should not get to gung ho about term limits. If we had TL's would we be haring the truth from people like Ron Paul. The best TL is at the voting booth. A few incumbents are PRO USA & want to preserve the nation. We need to keep these few IN office. We MUST have people in DC who will fight to keep this card crap that will lead to total govt control.Like the good Dr. Paul says, either we believe in freedom or we don't. My self, I do NOT trust the govt. SamFox
This sentence, next to last, should have read:We MUST have people in DC who will fight to protect US from this card crap that will lead to total govt control & later into a one world govt. Posted to quickly. SamFox
In Australia a previous social democratic government attempted to bring in a national ID card. The claim was it would reduce tax evasion and welfare fraud. (Today the claim would be anti-terrorism.) As it turned out the proposal was defeated by a genuine and broadly based left and right coalition. This is the kind of thing many libertarian armchair strategists dream about.(The history of the anti-Card campaign is summarised here.)The trouble is that winning the battle is not winning the war. Despite an apparently successful mass public campaign, the bureaucrats ultimately got most of what they wanted anyhow, by making tax file numbers compulsory for creating bank accounts and a variety of less obviously invasive measures.
Well done. This could become the stealth issue of the year. Especially if the Health Care Bill fails to pass.
ReplyDeleteHorrible.
ReplyDeleteIndia has one in the works too.
The ex chief of Infosys is behind that one.
Public outcry stopped it in UK a while back..might be coming back now..
You're worried about digging up dirt.
I'm worried how easy it will be to make up dirt..
ID Cards - an Historical View
ReplyDeletehttp://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15231
"Does history tell us anything about the main purpose of ID schemes? History shows strong recurring themes.
"Surprisingly, again and again, the main function has been controlling labour and the workforce, to serve the objective of creating a command economy. Suppression of political dissent has been in second place, although often a ‘close second’."
It is important to recognise the introduction of ID cards as a global phenomenon, part of a global strategy on personal information, as described in the following articles: -
http://www.corbettreport.com/articles/20100109_id_cards.htm
ID Cards - Intergovernmental Cooperation in Worldwide Implementation
ID Cards - a World View
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14992
"Electronic ID cards have made alarming progress towards becoming universal, around the world. Already, over 2.2 billion people, or 33% of the world’s population, have been issued with ‘smart’ ID cards. Of those, over 900 million have biometric facial and fingerprint systems. On present plans, over 85% of the world’s population will have smart ID cards by 2012. Most of the remaining population won’t have escaped - largely, they are already enrolled in earlier generation ID systems, often in repressive states, such as Myanmar (Burma)"
Interestingly of one of those articles is that ID cards are about facilitating increased numbers of migrant workers - that ID cards are just about creating the means to manage and control them
ReplyDeletehttp://www.corbettreport.com/articles/20100109_id_cards.htm
ID Cards - Intergovernmental Cooperation in Worldwide Implementation
Love the article.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing I don't understand is the "managing people" at the workplace point that you make. Every family member that I have who works in the "professional" environment are basically forced to come in early, stay late, bring work home with them, pay "babysitters" to take care of their kids during extra hours of work, and basically become a serf to the corporate overlord all without $ compensation.
I think you are severely overplaying the effect "the card" will have on the ability to "manage people" (which made me feel a little ill when I read it). Perhaps the # of sexual harassment law suits and similar suits are abused. However, I've seen a trend in the professional world that is aiding the government to separate families and turn life into "your job" instead of using a job to live your life.
The rest of your article is perfect. However, "managing people" is hardly the way we should be thinking about each other. Communism and Capitalism are really good friends when you see how "Capitalists" are securing basically every piece of property in the world and restricting the middle and lower classes. This is why we see the "disappearance" of the middle class.
It's becoming serf / lord situation here in America and the card will make it worse. But I really don't see preventing mega-corporations from firing people for not giving free labor (IE working earlier than 8 till after 5 with a half hour lunch with no overtime b/c of salary based pay) as being a bad thing.
However, this card is definitely not a good thing. It's the beginning of overt socialism in the country instead of the subversive socialism that we've all become so comfortable with.
this is not a "states" issue,these plans are global in nature.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JiIQiol5-o
Re: Lila Rajiva
ReplyDeleteHeck...imagine if a "Lilla Rajiva" did something bad and someone forgot the second "l." We've seen how difficult it is to get the government to correct a mistake...
We are in very difficult times.
This video is a great reason why we should not get to gung ho about term limits. If we had TL's would we be haring the truth from people like Ron Paul.
ReplyDeleteThe best TL is at the voting booth. A few incumbents are PRO USA & want to preserve the nation. We need to keep these few IN office.
We MUST have people in DC who will fight to keep this card crap that will lead to total govt control.
Like the good Dr. Paul says, either we believe in freedom or we don't. My self, I do NOT trust the govt.
SamFox
This sentence, next to last, should have read:
ReplyDeleteWe MUST have people in DC who will fight to protect US from this card crap that will lead to total govt control & later into a one world govt.
Posted to quickly.
SamFox
In Australia a previous social democratic government attempted to bring in a national ID card. The claim was it would reduce tax evasion and welfare fraud. (Today the claim would be anti-terrorism.) As it turned out the proposal was defeated by a genuine and broadly based left and right coalition. This is the kind of thing many libertarian armchair strategists dream about.
ReplyDelete(The history of the anti-Card campaign is summarised here.)
The trouble is that winning the battle is not winning the war. Despite an apparently successful mass public campaign, the bureaucrats ultimately got most of what they wanted anyhow, by making tax file numbers compulsory for creating bank accounts and a variety of less obviously invasive measures.